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Avid is no bicycle
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You obviously didn’t read my post… the reference to Adrenaline was because it was mentioned in the post I was responding to.
If you had read my post, you’d see I like both Avid and FCP, and I use them both. I can accomplish anything I want using either. As far as multi-layering and compositing, they’re both limited compared to After Effects.
Glad to hear you’re having success….
Pain is temporary… film is forever.
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Media 100 IS a bicycle. I’m a 100% FCP convert but I could jump on a Media 100i system and be cruisng right away.
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I cut on both final Cut and Avid Sympnonys on a daily basis. I got on the Avid bandwagon way back in 1990 with some of the first in my market. I use both, but I now I actually prefer FCP over the Avid for most projects. I’ve found that it’s just the opposite of the above post. I’m much faster and get much more done on FCP in a given time frame. I agree that Avid’s trimming and media manager are superior (right now) as is it’s color corrector, but for everyday, nuts & bolts projects, FCP is my preferred platform now. Not to mention the ease of compositing and keyframing effects on FCP. The Avid EFX mode is just clunky, limiting and outdated.I also agree with the above post about the Nitris. It’s user interface is VERY FCP like and much easier and faster when moving things around the timeline Coincidence? I wonder. . I actually liked what I saw but really big $$$ for the system.
A few years ago, I had to fight with managment to get an FCP system into an all Avid house. Really fight. They just wouldn’t take it seriously at all. It was just a toy to them. Now it’s been two years and I doubt we’ll ever see a new Avid system here again. We’ll be adding at least one more Final Cut system in the next few months for HD editing, and, I’m guessing, another one after that as we decommission our last remaining linear suite. (we just haven’t had the heart to do it yet)
Anyhow, I’ve managed to prove my point that the platform/software combination is a very cost effective alternitive to Avid. We still have an few old school holdouts that just will never take FCP seriously, but they will give us a reason to keep the Symphonys going, and keep paying that damned yearly service fee for each system. I could almost buy a new FCP system each year for what that’s costing us.
We’ll see what FCP5 brings. I already have my copy on order. 🙂
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I have to disagree. I cut on Avid for 6 years all day everyday…I cut fcp for a year and a half. FCP is easy, avid is freaking clunky! I love the free form workflow of FCP. I have both in my suite, but sadly I have to refer to my avid manuals to remember the correct key strokes. And I often find myself trying to lasso parts of my time line to shift it.
My advice with avid is stop thinking and feeling and just stay in the lines. It will come back
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[Tom Matthies] “It’s user interface is VERY FCP like and much easier and faster when moving things around the timeline Coincidence? I wonder. .”
Wonder what?
DS existed before Avid owned it. It was acquired when they bought Softimage from Microsoft. DS was introduced in the mid 1990s [I think it was 1995]. FCP was introduced what? 1999?
Then let us not forget Adobe Premiere – the original Randy Ubillos NLE.So if anything FCP followed others in regards to interface. Heck, FCP still has the Adobe’esque toolbar.
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Your right, Avid is cluncy, and a little too old school, as I said I prefer FCP. FCP to quote myself, is a next generation editing system, in other words, better.
Chris
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Had to say it.
Chris
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I have wished for years that FCP could be as robust and powerful as Avid and am still waiting. Use Avid every day and FCP for side jobs and a documentary film I cut last year (writing this while digitizing on FCP right now). FCP is clunky, crashes often and the Media Managment is terrible. I’ve invested 20K into our high-end FCP system and will agree it’s a decent value and makes more profit looking at the surface, but Avid is very reliable, can do basic things like dirt removal from film that FCP can’t and can handle the pounding two shifts a day give it. I wish FCP was there and the Avids would be history. Yes it is difficult to drift between the two. I have laminated keyboad maps and cheat sheets for FCP taped up above my edit screens. Wish FCP had ability to map more on screen buttons.
My two cents,
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Mark me in the Avid camp too. FCp is a nice program for my home use… but it’s just not designed to cut as fast as Avid. It’s TOO reliant on the drag and drop ideal. Avid is built for cutting. I think FCP suffers from trying to be all things for all people.
Avid also blows FCP away (as said) in media managment. And i find Avid to be far more customizable to me. I can make Avid my bitch, where as with FCP, I have to remember to do it Apple’s way.
Just my opinion.
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I guess if all you’re doing is cutting, that makes sense. Unfortunately, we make a lot more money doing more sophisticated editing, where Avid can’t compete. As far as customization, I find the button bars and the reconfigurable keyboard all anyone needs. IMO, it’s Avid that forces you to do things their way, not FCP…
It’s nice to have choices…
Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.
mitch@insightproductions.com
http://www.insightproductions.com
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