Avid first to allow 5.1 mix in edit?

[John Rofrano]

[Neal Barlow] “…they were talking about how excited they were that AVID 6 now allowed them to have 5.1 in their mixes natively so that when they are screening their dailies and early edits that it would start to have the mix closer to what the final would be like. Isn’t this something that Vegas has done since version 4? … I feel like everyone else gets excited when other software does things that Vegas can already do, or is this really something new to the industry? It’s like everyone getting excited about Final Cut X when it could unsync audio and video. Is there something I am missing?”

What you’re missing is that AVID, Final Cut Pro, and Premiere have been in the Stone Age for years!!! They have subscribed to a workflow that requires everyone to convert their video footage to a certain format, and conform all of their video manually to match their project, and they are amazed when they get any new features that eliminates the drudgery that they call “editing”.

Vegas has had most of the new features coming out in these NLE’s for years and years now. FCP X editors are amazed that they can now use a handle to make a fade on an audio clip (they still can’t do it for video) and Vegas has been doing this since Vegas Video 2! I’m sure when they get the ability to fade video without applying a transition there will be much rejoicing and announcements about this fantastic new feature.

I remember a VASST training session 6 years ago in NYC where Douglas Spotted Eagle was dropping video of different frame rates on the timeline while it was playing and the Final Cut Pro editors in the audience were salivating. Then he dropped an animated GIF file on the timeline and it started playing and I think they pee’d their pants. They thought it was voodoo or something and kept telling him, “you can’t do that you have to conform first”. I think a few of them actually bought a copy of Vegas after that session. They couldn’t believe what they were seeing or how antiquated their current workflow was with FCP.

So you and every other Vegas editor haven’t missed anything. It’s the rest of the video editing world that is missing out and just catching up. I laugh a lot when I read the “new” features in AVID, FCP, and PP that Vegas has had since the beginning. Enjoy the laughter, the jokes on them. 😉

~jr

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[Eddie Macarthur]

Vegas has the best audio facilities. I’m mainly an audio guy and I would even use vegas for cd authoring instead of sony cd architect because it allows use of vst plugins. only reason I don’t is that cd architect is better for moving/rearranging track lists. ed

System; intel i72600k 3.4GHZ, 16GB RAM, Win 7 64 bit. Vegas Pro 11 latest build, Neat Video 3.01. EVGA GTX460 SC graphics

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[Neal Barlow]

That’s exactly what I was thinking. It was also a big deal in the AVID video to hit a arrow and now you could see the wave form on the actual file. I thought. Really? I teach high school video as my main gig and run my production company second. I teach them on Vegas and have quite a few students go off to film school. When they come back, most of them complain about what they can’t do, or do quickly in Final Cut, or AVID. However, Vegas just doesn’t seem to be a standard in any of the film classes they take.

Neal Barlow
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[John Rofrano]

[Eddie Macarthur] “Vegas has the best audio facilities.”

Yea, I don’t think I could do my audio work in any other NLE. Sometimes I shoot live music performances and have to sync them to the CD version of the music and Vegas Pro allows me to cut the CD music and stretch it so that it follows the live tempo. I don’t believe any other NLE has that level of sophistication. I make heavy use of media markers to do this and I don’t think any other NLE even has media markers. I agree that there is no other NLE that comes close to Vegas Pro for audio editing.

~jr

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[John Rofrano]

[Neal Barlow] ” and now you could see the wave form on the actual file. I thought. Really?”

Yea, I am so shocked when I watch tutorials on FCP 7 and the clips on the timeline are just colored bars with no video or audio cues. How do people edit “blind” like that? At least FCP X looks more like Vegas Pro in that regard. 😉

~jr

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