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  • Avid Artist Color – Any solution?

    Posted by Guillem Ventura on July 17, 2013 at 3:46 pm

    After upgrading to just-released Resolve 9.1.5 and EuControl 3.0 I still experience the same lame LAG I’ve come to get used to with the Artist Color control surface.

    The machine works fine with the WAVE, and the Artist Color runs amazing smooth under Apple’s COLOR.

    But RESOLVE+ARTIST COLOR = Delay for every move of the ball/ring.

    I tried setting manual IP, disabling any firewalll…
    But it behaves really sluggish anyhow. No way to work with it.

    Anyone working under the same setup but fine?

    Thanks!!

    http://www.malgeniofilms.com

    Evan Kultangwatana replied 12 years, 9 months ago 6 Members · 15 Replies
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  • Guillem Ventura

    July 17, 2013 at 3:52 pm

    Sorry, the initial idea was to portrait that the new version of EUCONTROL not only didn’t improve the behaviour at all, but shows up to be terribly unstable, keeps disconecting the surface and I must restart the softwares for it to work…
    Please do something or I’ll have to get a Tangent ELEMENT 🙂

    http://www.malgeniofilms.com

  • Eric Hansen

    July 17, 2013 at 4:23 pm

    I’m with ya, completely disappointed in the lag. I’m still running Resolve 9.1.4 and EuCon 2.7 because of the issues people have reported. the 9.1.4 and 2.7 combo is actually very stable, but the lag has never gone away. I bought the board because it worked with Color and Resolve (back when I still had a number of Color projects) but disappointed in how much slower it is with Resolve. Since it’s been this long without a fix, I’m holding no hope for the future. I’ve gotten used to the lag, but it makes me stare at the waveforms and YRGB numbers on the GUI more than I want because I never know if my movements are being applied to the grade. Oops, there it goes, now I gotta dial it back. Dammit!

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    Eric Hansen
    Production Workflow Designer / Consultant / Colorist / DIT
    https://www.erichansen.tv

  • Jake Blackstone

    July 17, 2013 at 8:43 pm

    Sorry to disappoint, but I’m running my Artist MC Color for over two years and I don’t experience any lag whatsoever. Always running vsersion 2 on EUcontrol and I have no need to update it to version 3. Right now I use it connected to the Ethernet hub. This way I can use it with my other Windows workstation, that are on the same network. No lag on that Windows station Resolve too. In the past I had used MC Color connected directly to the computer with no issues at all. I even use it on all my remote grading sessions and again, no lag…

  • Eric Hansen

    July 17, 2013 at 8:46 pm

    hey Jake

    did you use the Artist with Apple Color? I feel like I wouldn’t have noticed the lag in Resolve if I hadn’t spent 6 months using it with Color. It’s night and day the difference.

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    Eric Hansen
    Production Workflow Designer / Consultant / Colorist / DIT
    https://www.erichansen.tv

  • Guillem Ventura

    July 17, 2013 at 9:34 pm

    I’m with Eric.

    I tried plugging it straight to the ethernet port, or thru the Switch, and on a OSX reinstalled from scratch, and everything.

    Whenever I move to a Quantel station I feel the speed of my thoughts manifesting in the image. With the MC Color+ Resolve I have to think in advance and look at the scopes way too much, I lose reference.

    … Eric, maybe you are and me are the poor ones, although I doubt it.

    Any othe pros using Avid Artist Color who are happy with it?

    Cheers 🙂

    http://www.malgeniofilms.com

  • Eric Hansen

    July 17, 2013 at 9:54 pm

    I think the whole “plug it directly into the computer” thing is all moot when it works perfectly fine in Apple Color, but has latency in Resolve – ON THE SAME MACHINE

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    Eric Hansen
    Production Workflow Designer / Consultant / Colorist / DIT
    https://www.erichansen.tv

  • Mike Most

    July 17, 2013 at 10:01 pm

    If you try the same panel with, say, Assimilate Scratch (or in Media Composer, for that matter, at least when using the lift and gain masters as timeline joggers), I think you’ll notice the difference. It’s not so much a latency thing as it is velocity sensitivity. Some operators like that, some don’t. But it’s only present (in my experience) with Resolve, not with other programs.

  • Eric Hansen

    July 17, 2013 at 10:08 pm

    yes Mike, that has been my experience. if i move the rings or balls too slowly, Resolve registers no movement at all. Then if I go just slightly faster, Resolve will jump. Changing the sensitivity settings in Resolve doesn’t help. Increasing the sensitivity just makes the movements jump higher once they reach a high enough velocity to register.

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    Eric Hansen
    Production Workflow Designer / Consultant / Colorist / DIT
    https://www.erichansen.tv

  • Guillem Ventura

    July 18, 2013 at 8:29 am

    That’s my experience too.
    But I can deal with it, i just move a bit faster 😉
    To me, the real problem is the lag!

    http://www.malgeniofilms.com

  • Jake Blackstone

    July 18, 2013 at 8:28 pm

    Sensitivity and lag are two different things.
    As i already had said, I don’t experience any lag and that includes even Remote Grading mode. As far as sensitivity, i never used Color, so I can’t compare operation of MC Color in Resolve to Color. But I can compare MC Color, while using FCP and Avid BL plugin as well as Smoke operation and I don’t see much difference.
    I happened to be firmly in the camp, that likes the sensitivity settings on Resolve. Or could it be, that I’m just used to it?

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