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Avid AAF and mixed framerates
Posted by Blase Theodore on January 2, 2012 at 6:30 pmAbout to jump into a roundtrip workflow with Avid 5.5. I’ll need to render back to a new sequence with clip handles.
The caveat: timeline is mixed framerates. Whole sequence will be 30 with mixed in 24.
Has anyone attempted this before? I guess resolve will be doing a pullup on the 24 stuff, and render out everything at 30?
Sanrj Patil replied 13 years, 8 months ago 4 Members · 5 Replies -
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Joseph Owens
January 2, 2012 at 7:06 pmNo. This is forbidden. Just like COLOR, you must unify the frame rate within the project or treat the differing framerate streams as separate projects. You will not be able to track or keyframe clips of differing frame rates, and round trip in/out points will be corrupted, just as they are in Apple FCP/COLOR flow.
Guessing that Resolve would do a pullup is a remarkable leap of faith. It is possible to display and play out 23.98 sequences at 2997 with added 2/3 cadence, but these options must be specifically configured.
If you don’t believe me, read the “Conform” chapter in the manual. You will find the following advice:
Important: When preparing edited sequences for DaVinci Resolve import, do not use media with mixed
frame rates. Resolve treats all media as if it were at the frame rate of the project, so importing a mixed
frame rate sequence may produce unexpected results.jPo
You mean “Old Ben”? Ben Kenobi?
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Blase Theodore
January 2, 2012 at 7:14 pmJP, yeah that has always been my experience. I was hoping someone else would magically have better experience.
Does anyone use the Avid roundtrip workflow on a routine basis? I suspect the project coming in will have much/all AMA. I’ve never had to deal with that in relation to resolve. Anyone have comments in that regard?
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Joseph Owens
January 2, 2012 at 8:35 pmI’m about halfway through a drama series using AAF flow.
Version 8.1.1 has been a significant improvement for the AAF round trip. However, I am stuck with the situation of having to constantly revise the Resolve timeline with incoming VFX, so I’ve been exporting the whole show in Target mode most of the time. Whenever I get promo materials and short assemblies, the AAF works virtually seamlessly now. I’ve been round tripping the “next week on…” trailers and EPKs between the offline Media Composer 5.5, my version 6 to send to online, and Resolve 8.1.1.
I have been exporting ProRes, DNxHD(MXF), dpx, tiffs, and so on to the external VFX house for complex platework, and to myself to compose rotoshape mattes in both SHAKE and MochaPro, which work just fine coming back into Resolve.
jPo
You mean “Old Ben”? Ben Kenobi?
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Stig Olsen
January 11, 2012 at 9:30 pmJoseph, have you tried exporting DNxHD from Resolve to Mediacomposer, put the files in the avid media folder /123etc, rebuilding a new database? In other words – the usual way.
I am experiencing huge gamma shifts when opening in Avid. The monitor is set to normal range, export from Resolve in normal range, and Avid is set to normal range.
I need to do a gamma correction on the top layer in Avid to compensate.Stig
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Sanrj Patil
October 5, 2012 at 6:25 pmException: Your attached hardware is reporting an unexpected frame rate.
Plese ensure hardware video formate settings are correct.
if settings are correct, please save your work, power down your system and attached hardware, and restart to restore normal optation.1080 24p DNXHD 175x
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