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  • Avid 5 – Resolve roundtrip problem

    Posted by Archie Fenwick on April 18, 2011 at 3:05 pm

    We are currently experimenting with Avid to Resolve round-tripping and the hurdle we have hit is that when we render out from Resolve (after importing our MXF and AAF files) not all of our clips are coming back when we try and relink in Avid.
    Is the AAF workflow not quite there yet or is it working for others? Should we be concentrating on an EDL-based workflow? Any general workflow round-tripping info from Avid to Resolve would be gladly received.

    Thanks in advance.

    Josh Petok replied 14 years, 11 months ago 4 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Josh Petok

    April 18, 2011 at 4:20 pm

    How was your original source material brought in? AMA or captured? Do you need handles? You could export one DNxHD file from resolve. Then, apply the pan and scan effect to it, select all tracks and click the “subdivide” button in the effect. That should put all the cuts back into your flattened file.

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  • Archie Fenwick

    April 18, 2011 at 4:31 pm

    It has been captured in. We really need handles as it needs to be round-tripped back to Avid to online there. Is this a common workflow?

  • Josh Petok

    April 18, 2011 at 4:57 pm

    You may have already tried this, but I’ll throw it out anyway.

    – Render out of Resolve in DNxHD MXF in source mode

    – In your original “Avid MediaFiles” directory, put an x in front of the name to stop it from loading the media

    – boot up MC add your new MXF files to the new Avid MediaFiles directory

    – decompose your sequence with handles less than or equal to what you sent to Resolve

    – relink your sequence to the new media

    I mainly work in flattened files, so this is all theoretical. Let us know how it turns out for you.

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  • Archie Fenwick

    April 19, 2011 at 9:33 pm

    I didn’t need to decompose in the end. It just started working with the aaf route.
    Thanks for that. The only thing I’m not clear about is why this workflow doesn’t seem to be more common. It seems most people play out their final sequence from Resolve rather than onlining it in their editing software.

  • Josh Petok

    April 20, 2011 at 12:07 am

    How did you end up sending it back to Media Composer?

    I don’t have the DNxHD license. I’m curious to hear if Resolve can render out to a “Avid MediaFiles” or MXF directory that Avid understands.

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  • Archie Fenwick

    April 20, 2011 at 8:31 am

    We have got the DNxHD license here. After some dubious results we seem to have a working model to get the sequence into and out of Resolve via .aaf with handles. I’m not sure how you would go about doing it without the license though.

    Archie

  • Jake Blackstone

    April 23, 2011 at 4:20 pm

    You don’t need a license to be able to read and write DNxHD, only for MXF.

  • Michael Stirling

    May 25, 2011 at 1:59 pm

    Hi Archie

    We’re in the process of trying to crack the Avid round trip – good to hear someone has a working method. It’d be great if you could spell out a quick step-by-step of your workflow.

    So far we have got mxf files from avid to da vinci and rendered. The Avid can see them BUT only if we bring them in manually through the media tool. If we copy them into the Avid media pool, the relevant project cannot see them at all. In both cases, the sequence refuses to relink.

    Da vinci seems to be losing reel names on the way in. In the media pool al the clips have a reel number of 001 which isn’t correct.

    Thanks

    Mike

  • Josh Petok

    May 25, 2011 at 3:40 pm

    [michael stirling] “Da vinci seems to be losing reel names on the way in. In the media pool al the clips have a reel number of 001 which isn’t correct.”

    Is it possible that your reel names are longer than 8 characters? I’m not sure if that’s a problem, but it’s something you might want to check.

    As I look at my own MXF directory, I can see the reel name in each of the individual MXF files. You could try using the Timeline Conform Options: Assist Using Reel Numbers from the: Source clip filename. I’m not sure how your directory structure is setup, but I’m assuming you could use something like */Avid MediaFiles/MXF/%R

    Then again, you could wait for Resolve 8 to ship in June 😉 From my brief experience with it. the new workflow relies on ALEs to transport metadata.

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