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  • AVCHD to BLU RAY with vegas 8 and DVDA 5?

    Posted by Michel Van nistelrooij on October 1, 2008 at 9:34 am

    Oke, i think i have a simple question, and googled for it but i don’t find an direct answer. Hope someone can tell me the right way:

    I have a Sony TG3 camcorder which produces AVCHD full hd (1920-1080i 15Mbps).
    Want i want is edit these files with Vegas 8 ( have 8c now).
    This works, offcourse slow, and ready to go to DVDA 5.
    But then i’m very confused!!!
    What i want is a blu-ray( not a AVCHD disc on DVD) disc with menu’s and the higgest possible quality of my video.

    I have 3 flavors( i use PAL system):
    1) MPEG2 Blu-ray 1920-1080 50i 25Mbps (makes a .m2v extension)
    2) Sony avc Blu-ray 1920-1080 50i 16Mbps(makes a .AVC extension)
    3) Sony avc AVCHD 1920-1080 PAL 16Mbps (makes a .m2ts extension)

    What kind of template i must use to import to DVDA for the best quality?
    If the quality is the same, which should be faster?(smart render possible?)
    All the 3 options have different extensions. Does this matter?
    (because i hear that all the options are sort of MPEG2 versions?)

    At last: In DVDA 5 i can choose 2 templates for Blu-ray
    1)MPEG2
    2)AVC

    What the hell is the difference because i can choose the same resolutions and sound settings for the both of them.
    So what is better 1 or 2? (this should depend on the import of the video i think?)

    i did one test :
    If i choose MPEG2 for the blu-ray and import an .avc and an .mpv file, it doesn’t matter for DVDA. It doesn’t need to re-encode ????

    I really hope someone can anser my questions!!!
    Very much thanks in advance!!!!

    John Rofrano replied 17 years, 9 months ago 3 Members · 8 Replies
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  • John Rofrano

    October 1, 2008 at 1:52 pm

    The rule of thumb is to choose the settings that are closest to your source. In your case, option 2) Blu-ray 1920-1080 50i 16Mbps is the one to render to in Vegas. Then when you create your Blu-ray project in DVD Architect 5, select AVC 1920×1080-50i, 16:9 since you’re already working with 1920×1080 AVCHD footage. It won’t hurt to use other settings but sticking with the format you are using makes things simpler.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Michel Van nistelrooij

    October 1, 2008 at 2:13 pm

    Thanks for your answer!!!

    I see your point but for my information:

    Is there an difference between quality of option 1 or 2 from vegas 8?
    What i mean :
    Option 1 is an template who says :video format=mpeg2 25mbps
    Option 2 is an template who says :video format=AVC 16mbps

    I know my source is only 15 Mbps so that doesn’t matter but what about the codec’s
    Which is better from AVCHD to: AVC or MPEG2 or is it the same codec with an another name???

    I hope you can explain it to me!!

  • David Shirey

    October 1, 2008 at 3:36 pm

    I guess the easiest way to explain is that AVC is more advanced, and can carry the same quality as mpeg2 but with a lower bitrate. So just because AVC is at 16mbps and MPEG2 is 25mbps, doesn’t mean that mpeg2 is better. AVC is already what you’re recording in, and will allow you to fit more data on each disc, so there’s no real advantage to convert it to mpeg2.

  • Michel Van nistelrooij

    October 1, 2008 at 5:31 pm

    Thanks again for your time to explain it to me!!

    So you say that AVC = AVCHD = format/codec from camcorder??
    Sorry for the silly question then but why does Vegas 8 have templates for render to Blu-ray .avc extension and AVCHD .mt2s extension when it is the same??( i know that avc is only video and avchd is video and sound but is that the only difference??)

    Oke last question and then i am a happy man:

    When i in DVDA 5 have made a blu-ray disc(i.e AVC) and after that i want to use the same compilation for a normal dvd. Can i simple change the properties of the project to DVD and then “Prepare disk” again?
    Does DVDA5 do all the right encoding to normal mpeg2 or must i do it myself in vegas all over and make an another compilation to make a normal video-dvd??

    Thanks in advance!!!!

  • John Rofrano

    October 1, 2008 at 6:24 pm

    > So you say that AVC = AVCHD = format/codec from camcorder??

    Almost… not all AVC is HD. You would also use the AVC to make MPEG4 files for Sony PSP, etc. But in your case, the AVC that you have is AVCHD.

    > Sorry for the silly question then but why does Vegas 8 have templates for render to Blu-ray .avc extension and AVCHD .mt2s extension when it is the same??( i know that avc is only video and avchd is video and sound but is that the only difference??)

    Mostly. The Blu-ray template makes an elemental stream (video only) which is all ready for authoring and the AVCHD makes a transport stream of both audio and video.

    > When i in DVDA 5 have made a blu-ray disc(i.e AVC) and after that i want to use the same compilation for a normal dvd. Can i simple change the properties of the project to DVD and then “Prepare disk” again?
    Does DVDA5 do all the right encoding to normal mpeg2 or must i do it myself in vegas all over and make an another compilation to make a normal video-dvd??

    It should do all of the re-encoding and make a regular DVD. I have been tempted to try this but haven’t yet. I have changed the project from Blu-ray to DVD and reused all of the menus and just substituted MPEG-2 files that I created in Vegas but next time I will try it this way and see. Sure seems like a lot less work than what I was doing.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Michel Van nistelrooij

    October 1, 2008 at 9:08 pm

    thank you very much for your information!

    I’ll will try the avc encoding.
    I hope dvda will encoding it also to a dvd. May the testing begin……

  • Michel Van nistelrooij

    October 14, 2008 at 6:47 pm

    Oke i have upgraded my computer with some memory and i’m testing with the AVC templates

    2) Sony avc Blu-ray 1920-1080 50i 16Mbps(makes a .AVC extension)
    3) Sony avc AVCHD 1920-1080 PAL 16Mbps (makes a .m2ts extension)

    Still i have one question:

    When i look into the templates of Vegas( button custom and then the settings of the template) , i see 1 difference between the two templates( except that 1 is with audio and the other format not)

    Template 2 uses profile: Main
    Template 3 uses profile: High

    I have a Sony TG3, so can someone explain me what is the best template i can use???
    What is the difference between profile main and high??
    Quality or other decoding format???

    I hope someone knows the answer!!
    Thanks again!!

  • John Rofrano

    October 15, 2008 at 4:00 am

    I believe they will both give you the same video quality. I would use the AVCHD template because it includes audio and therefore is one less step in the process. You might want to try both and see if you can see a difference in video quality but I would bet that you can’t.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

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