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  • AVCHD into FCP- Small files now huge???

    Posted by Darren Peister on January 1, 2010 at 9:41 pm

    I’ve been reading the archives about AVCHD and importing into FCP. I’ve done this with ease; the camera is a Canon HFS10 and the computer is running FCP v6.0.6 so the whole thing works nicely. BUT the tiny files on the camcorder once imported using the Apple Intermediate Codec are huge! Any way to import them natively and work with them? While I have the storage space, it just seems odd to have to work with imported files that are vastly larger than how they originated. In my mind it would be great to copy the files off the camera in their native form (possible?) then import them into FCP with a file size similar to what I began with. Thoughts on a workflow would be great.

    Geek/Nerd
    Mac Pro 2.26 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon
    16 GB RAM, 3Gig internal Raid

    Fatima Mojaddidy replied 14 years, 6 months ago 6 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Tom Wolsky

    January 1, 2010 at 10:32 pm

    FCP does not work with AVCHD natively. It’s a highly compressed format that requires a great deal of processor power to play properly in an editing system. I think only Premiere supports it natively and only with great difficulty. Furthermore any compositing or effects you need to do should absolutely not be done in this extremely fragile codec. A more robust production codec like ProRes or AIC should be used.

    All the best,

    Tom

    Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP7,” “Basic Training for FCS” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
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  • Zane Barker

    January 2, 2010 at 3:21 am

    [Darren Peister] “the tiny files on the camcorder once imported using the Apple Intermediate Codec are huge”

    Perfectly normal.

    There are no “technical solutions” to your “artistic problems”.
    Don’t let technology get in the way of your creativity!

  • Frank Rørtvedt

    January 2, 2010 at 1:53 pm

    Thanks, was thinking about the same question.
    Two more questions.. is there any problems to just copy the AVCHD files to the harddrive,
    and save it as “raw material”, and then at any time I want to start on the
    project, just Log and Transfer to create the ProRes files and start working?

    And so on, is it possible to compress the ProRes files when im finished with
    the project, and convert it into AVCHD or some other highly compressed
    formats, so I may save the raw materials in its full shape forever without
    filling up my HD?

    – FrankFilming

  • Darren Peister

    January 2, 2010 at 6:17 pm

    THE Tom Wolsky replied to my post? (Swoon).

    I understand that the AVCHD file is highly compressed and not FCP friendly. It just seems bizarre that there’s no corresponding sized file or similarly sized file created by FCP. You import a grape; you get a watermelon at the other end- no option to make a kiwi or an orange. Is there perhaps a program (kind of like MPEG Streamclip) that can convert the files from the camera and make FCP compatible files before importing them? Thoughts on this?

    Geek/Nerd
    Mac Pro 2.26 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon
    16 GB RAM, 3Gig internal Raid

  • Zane Barker

    January 2, 2010 at 6:26 pm

    [Darren Peister] “It just seems bizarre that there’s no corresponding sized file or similarly sized file created by FC”

    [Darren Peister] “You import a grape; you get a watermelon at the other end- no option to make a kiwi or an orange.”

    Its not strange at all. Think of it this way its easier to draw and a full sheet of paper then it would be to on a postage stamp. Why is that because of the compressed size of a postage stamp.

    [Darren Peister] “Is there perhaps a program (kind of like MPEG Streamclip) that can convert the files from the camera and make FCP compatible files before importing them?”

    Thats exactly what happens during the log and transfer process it converts it to a FCP friendly format. FCP transcodes it into ether AVCHD or ProRes
    https://support.apple.com/kb/TA24840

    There are no “technical solutions” to your “artistic problems”.
    Don’t let technology get in the way of your creativity!

  • Noam Osband

    November 23, 2010 at 5:43 am

    What codec will give me the smallest .mov file on an import? I am giving someone some raw footage to look at, and I want the files to be as small as possible.

  • Fatima Mojaddidy

    October 28, 2011 at 6:24 pm

    After two years of dealing with this issue I am tired of it. There has got to be a way to shrink these files soemwhat and still work in FCP. If I have to go through a different program that can make files still usable in FCP please let me know.

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