Audio-Technica System 10 or Rodelink Wireless system?

[D.j. Monopoli]

Yeah, you might be confusing this with a UHF system. The 2.4 GHz wireless systems are relatively newer technology and use a digital transmission which is 44.1Khz for the Rodelink and 48Khz for the AT System 10. The digital signal obviously converted to analog for output from the receiver so there isn’t technically any issues and you can record at any sample rate you want, but regardless the signal is (technically) better on the System 10 since it is a true 48Khz transmission.

-DJ Monopoli
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[Brian Reynolds]

A friend bought a set of the Rodelink and sold them shortly after due to the size of the TX unit…. He often referred to it ‘the brick’ due to its size.
He then went to a Sony UWPD series setup.

In regard to ‘Omni’ v ‘Cardiod’ lav mics, in my more than 35+ years of broadcasting experience I have NEVER had success with the cardioid pattern on a lav mic…… NEVER

[Ty Ford]

Directional lavs are a tool, a specialized tool that require more attention, but can be helpful.

Here’s a piece I did on the Countryman B2D.

https://tyfordaudiovideo.blogspot.com/2014/02/countryman-b2d-cardioid-lav-another.html

Regards,

Ty Ford
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[Richard Crowley]

” the signal is (technically) better on the System 10 since it is a true 48Khz transmission.”

There is no basis of fact in that statement. In fact the original decision between 48K and 44.1K was partly technical (because of the capabilities of consumer-grade low-pass filters back 40 years ago), and partly political. But clearly a 48K sample rate sounds more impressive if you are simply looking at numbers. Bigger is always better, isn’t it?

[D.j. Monopoli]

That’s good to know about the size of the unit. Doesn’t look to bad in the pictures but I guess the pictures can be deceiving.

Have you ever had more than one person with an omni mic close to each other and tried to compress and bring them up in post? I get the feeling that would introduce some sort of issues, possibly phasing or something? I would think it might even cause issues without compression and bringing the signal up. I obviously have little experience with lavs but it seems like there might be an issue there.

Thanks!

-DJ Monopoli
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[D.j. Monopoli]

Just read your piece on Countryman B2D and watched the video. I thought you looked familiar in your icon! I’ve actually seen some of your videos looking up reviews of these lavs and wireless systems the past few days haha. Anyway, it was very informative and you did some interesting tests there. Thanks for that!

-DJ

-DJ Monopoli
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[D.j. Monopoli]

It’s very unlikely anyone would hear a difference and I won’t argue that, but it seems like a bit of a stretch to say that “there is no basis of fact” in a statement saying a 44.1k transmission is (technically) better than a 48k transmission, when 48k is in fact transmitting more samples per second. I mean I guess it really depends on what you’re referring to when you say “better” but I was clearly referring to the technical aspect. I guess you can argue having more samples per second doesn’t make something better, but then you’re bringing opinion into it when my statement was clearly based off of factual technical specifications, not personal opinions.

-DJ Monopoli
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[Ty Ford]

D. J.

No Problem.

Any more questions?

Regards,

Ty Ford
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[Jonathan Lee]

DJ, Richard, and Ty, great discussion so far! I’ve learned a lot reading through the thread.

But I’ve actually got a question about the compatibility of a Countryman mic (specifically the Countryman e6i) with 3.5mm connector and the Rodelink Filmmaker Kit.

Has anyone tried a Countryman mic with the Rodelink? Does the Rodelink provide sufficient plug-in power? I assume so, since I’m told the Rodelink provides 4v while Countryman needs only 1-2v. And are the locking connectors on the mic and transmitter compatible with each other?

Thanks!
Jonathan

[Ty Ford]

Hi Jonathan,

According to Countryman, the AT and Rode Hirose connectors are wire differently.

I have both System 10 and Rodelink here. I have put in a request for e6 and b6 mics to find out if they will work with the System 10 and/or Rodelink without problems.

The System 10 will not work with the AT micropoint at this time due to rf interference. The System 10 will work with their east mic and 830 side address wav.

The Rodelink as it came to me with the Rode mic was picking ups 2.4 GHz interference.

Regards,

Ty Ford

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