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  • Jeremy Garchow

    October 23, 2014 at 8:16 pm

    [Tim Moyle] “I also can’t figure out how to export a dual mono file.”

    You have to set each Role as a mono output.

    The screen grab is here:

    https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/344/33790

    Jeremy

  • Robin S. kurz

    October 24, 2014 at 9:55 am

    [Tim Moyle] “neither of which seem to accomplish what I’m looking for.”

    Yes, as was pointed out before. No one seems to be able to get this to work as described. Certainly not without panning first and if you in fact simply pan each audio file to the left and right, you don’t even need to use roles upon export.

    – RK

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  • Jeremy Garchow

    October 24, 2014 at 1:11 pm

    We will continue to disagree about this, Robin. As mentioned both methods are fine, no one is right or wrong here.

    What I need when someone sends me discreet channels, is usually a dual mono file (or multitrack stereos/stems). There is no reason to have s file that has voice in one ear, music in another. That file would be brought in and either the music or dialog turned off and replaced (and subsequent panned “center”). This is what I keep trying to reiterate, that either of these methods is six of one, half dozen of the other. The result is a two channel file with discrete elements on each channel. A dual mono file needs to turn one of the channels off, a panned file would require turning one channel off and re-routing the signal to all speakers as no one is going to have the dialog play out of “left” only.

    I find using Roles is much less “destructive”, and achieves what is necessary. This assumes a small modicum of know how on the receiving end because they will have to adjust something when receiving either file, including but not limited to physically removing a speaker, ;).

  • Robin S. kurz

    October 24, 2014 at 3:50 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “We will continue to disagree about this”

    This had nothing to do with “disagreeing”, Jeremy. As I’ve already explained extensively, I just plain have no idea how you are doing it from FCP, since what you describe clearly does not result in what you are talking about, for anyone trying it. Aside from you apparently. That’s all.

    Or you’re simply explaining it poorly. I don’t know.

    – RK

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  • Jeremy Garchow

    October 24, 2014 at 4:59 pm

    [Robin S. Kurz] “This had nothing to do with “disagreeing”, Jeremy. As I’ve already explained extensively, I just plain have no idea how you are doing it from FCP, since what you describe clearly does not result in what you are talking about, for anyone trying it. Aside from you apparently. That’s all. “

    I have no problem getting a dual mono export out of FCPX using Roles. It’s very easy, the controls are posted in this thread.

    I can reimport the file, turn off either dialog or music, or mix each component separately.

    It is very basic functions of Roles in FCPX.

    I know I am not the only one capable of doing things like this.

  • Robin S. kurz

    October 24, 2014 at 5:06 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “I know I am not the only one capable of doing things like this.”

    Including me, there are three people in this thread alone that aren’t able to get it to happen via the way you describe. Just saying’. And I consider myself anything but a noobie FCP user.

    – RK

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  • Jeremy Garchow

    October 24, 2014 at 5:46 pm

    [Robin S. Kurz] “Including me, there are three people in this thread alone that aren’t able to get it to happen via the way you describe. Just saying’. And I consider myself anything but a noobie FCP user.

    Weird.

  • Tom Brooks

    October 29, 2014 at 7:56 pm

    I needed a multi-channel master today (to send some clips to another editor) and checked in on this thread to get a quick lowdown on it (the quick part didn’t work out so well). I chose Jeremy’s Roles output and it worked just great. Basically, I had clips with either lav mic and boom mic or a normal level and a lower level recorded–all mono channels.

    All normal level and lav mic went to the Dialogue role. For clips with a boom mic channel, that channel went to the Boom Mic role. Clips with a lower level channel for safety went to Lower Level Audio role. I exported a master with Roles as Multi-channel Quicktime file–all roles set to mono.

    Brought the resulting QT into FCX, just as an editor would do, and it has 3 discreet mono channels. These mono channels can now be mixed and panned as desired in the timeline. Just what I needed.

    Of course, it’s only upon doing this panning that the audio is separated to Left and Right. It’s all centered until that point, as would be expected. I think this output format is much better for an editor to receive than a stereo track with various clips panned in different ways. The channels were discreet mono channels in the camera and needed to be delivered that way to the editor. Roles are a great way to do it.

  • Tom Brooks

    October 29, 2014 at 8:45 pm

    [Tom Brooks] “All normal level and lav mic went to the Dialogue role. For clips with a boom mic channel, that channel went to the Boom Mic role. Clips with a lower level channel for safety went to Lower Level Audio role. I exported a master with Roles as Multi-channel Quicktime file–all roles set to mono.”

    I didn’t phrase that quite right. For example, if a clip had lav mic and boom mic channels, I let the lav mic channel go to the Dialogue Role and the boom mic channel went to the Boom Mic Role. This can be done by expanding the audio components for the clip and using the Assign Roles command. So, a single clip can have its multiple mono audio channels assigned to multiple Roles and therefore that audio will go to discreet channels in the exported QT file.

  • Girshon Rutstein

    February 7, 2016 at 2:36 am

    I have an audio stereo file guitar in L track and violin on R track.
    How do I split these 2 tracks and still make it sound stereo to adjust some volume independently. I was be able to do it in FCP7 easily.
    Here splitting into 2 mono the song becomes Mono.

    Thanks.

    Girshon R

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