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  • Audio Role – Clip Metadata

     Craig Seeman updated 11 years ago 5 Members · 6 Posts
  • Craig Seeman

    June 24, 2011 at 9:57 pm

    Audio Role – clip Metadata
    I noticed that when looking at the Clip Metadata in the “i” Inspector in General and Extended View, there’s a field that says Audio Role (it’s not in the default Basic View) followed by a pull down with the options for: Reset to Default, Multiple, Dialogue, Music, Effects.

    I think this is a good indication that the metadata will be there for the equivalent to track assignments to export for DAW work.

    I haven’t found a purpose for this user selection currently though. If someone can check and see if it’s searchable that would be interesting.

  • Tony Silanskas

    June 24, 2011 at 10:21 pm

    It’s not in the manual that I could find but I thought the same thing. I can understand how’s it hard to think about the vast uses of easily accessible metadata when we haven’t had it available in FCP before, but I see in the long run it is the evolutionary next step in all of digital media. Just open of Adobe Lightroom if you have it and see how easy it is to organize 10,000 photos, instantly putting them in many different places if that’s what you want to do. Being able to do this with video easily has been a long time coming and I’m ready for it.

    tony

    http://www.HungryCliff.com

  • Nate Weaver

    June 25, 2011 at 5:37 am

    I saw this and thought to myself, “oh, that’s how they’ll solve audio stem outputs”

    But then I thought about posting that in the other forum, thought better of it, and went back to learning the program.

    The deeper I go in, the more I can figure out about how certain things are going to be fixed…like how multicam is going to be an offshoot of Synchronized Clips, most likely. Etc etc.

    Nate Weaver
    Director/D.P., Los Angeles
    https://www.nateweaver.net

  • Stephen Bakopanos

    June 25, 2011 at 8:38 am

    [Nate Weaver] “The deeper I go in, the more I can figure out about how certain things are going to be fixed…like how multicam is going to be an offshoot of Synchronized Clips, most likely. Etc etc.”

    It’s funny isn’t it. The more you play with it, the more frustrated you get at certain things, but at the same time you notice the professional underpinnings and can start to see where Apple might be heading with this.

    It’s certainly not ready for prime time, but it’s also not the iMovie-catastrophe that a lot of editors are rashly assuming.

    The whole metadata/database underpinnings have the potential to be VERY powerful and productive tools when properly harnessed.

    Apple really just need to come out and reassure it’s userbase that it’s committed to developing the product. Maintaining silence might work for it’s consumer products like the iPhone, but it ain’t going to fly here.

  • Simon Ubsdell

    June 25, 2011 at 8:59 am

    [Stephen Bakopanos] “The more you play with it, the more frustrated you get at certain things, but at the same time you notice the professional underpinnings and can start to see where Apple might be heading with this.”

    Yup, I’d very much agree with this – having violent mood swings between being horrified at the apparent foolishness of many things and seriously impressed with the clear potential that exists in quite a few areas. There are definitely some “big ideas” in there waiting to be developed into something possibly really interesting but they really are just glimmers of potentiality at this point.

    Will Apple now go the extra mile (or a thousand, because there’s a long, long way to go, however you cut it!) with this, or will they react negatively to the barrage of abuse (and damaging coverage even in the mainstream media) and back away from developing a product that’s only going to give them grief for years to come?

    Simon Ubsdell
    Director/Editor/Writer
    http://www.tokyo-uk.com

  • Craig Seeman

    June 25, 2011 at 5:19 pm

    Looking at the same Inspector Info window and at the gear on the lower right there’s Add Custom Metadata Field and Apply Custom Name and on the left Settings View there’s the ability to Save and Edit Metadata views. They may appear like “busy boxes” at the moment (no great obvious use) they portend, to me, the power of a metadata database linked to a server. I think there’s a lot of not yet utilized power, they’re looking to expose and take advantage of down the road.

    With each issue I bump into, I question whether there’s some feature missing or something amiss in my thinking.

    I think as we piece together our practical shared workflow solving, we’ll dissever new ways of doing things. What is difficult to do will be easier to expose and resultant feature requests to should be much more intelligent. There’s still a tendency for some of us horse owners to ask where to we feed the car hay . . . myself included. That’s why I reserve my frustration and try to look at functions from angles and methods I haven’t approached before.

    When problem solving, I try to think of in what way does metadata handling facilitate a solution. That’s why I become curious when I see metadata/database feature that don’t yet server an overtly utilitarian purpose.

    ______
    Further discovery about Audio Role. In Event Viewer Column view right click and you can add Audio Role which has the aforementioned pull down options. There’s got to be (will be) a bulk way of designating clips when metadata for DAW export is implemented. Notably missing is Voice Over, Custom, ability to duplicate so that one might have Dialogue1, Dialogue2, etc.

    When you see a feature whose purpose is in question think about where it may go as a solution.

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