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Audio Reference level – more numbers & less frustration.
Posted by Neil Ryan on March 28, 2006 at 1:54 amAm I the only frustrated by the lack of marking on FCP’s audio meters?
a mark at -20 would be REAL helpful, as our broadcast stuff requires a reference level of -20dB.I’d love it if the number of markings on the audio meters increased as its window got bigger, and could therefore, accommodate more markings.
If you make the Audio Mixer fill a screen, the markings appear an inch or more apart – heaps of room for numbers.
Add that to the wish list. (Take a look at how Avid does it. Oh dear, there – I said.)
cheerio,
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Jeremy Garchow
March 28, 2006 at 2:10 amWait a minute Mr. Post Man!
I just wanted to say that.
Better audio control/feedback in FCP would be a plus. Drawing a line on my monitor with Sharpie somehow doesn’t make too much sense.
Let your opinion be heard!
https://www.apple.com/feedback/finalcutpro.html
Tell ’em what you want, and be nice. Some young kid is reading these, so be wary of their young, impressionable minds.
Geeking out,
Jeremy
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Bret Williams
March 28, 2006 at 3:20 amYep. Some dub house is going to distort the living heck out of your tapes if you use all your headroom. Analog takes don’t have 20db of headroom.
If you’re so gung ho on the avid scopes, notice that the default is either -14db or -16db I think. They keep changing it.
But contrary to common thinking, the higher you make your tone, the quieter your copies will be (all other levels the same of course).
-16 is a pretty good spot in my book. Then keep the average level peaks to -10, with highs at -6, and still have room for the occasional cough or point blank gunshot just under zero just in case.
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Neil Ryan
March 28, 2006 at 4:42 amBroadcasting standards differ around the world (I see some of you are shocked, already.)
Australian broadcasting standards are based on those of EBU PAL countries.
FREE TV AUSTRALIA OPERATIONAL PRACTICE OP -
Bill Kelly
March 28, 2006 at 4:44 amTry putting your tone in the timeline. Double click on it and it will show up in the Viewer. At the top of the Viewer window, move the slider to -20. Voila!
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Neil Ryan
March 28, 2006 at 5:00 am[kelmedia] “move the slider to -20”
correct if the Tone was at 0 to begin with – I often use imported Stereo tone … look, I don’t want to go right through my operational procedures for outputting broadcast material, here, suffice it to say, it’s nice to see your tone at exactly the right levels on your meters just as it is to see your program at the right level.
more numbers on the Audio Meters, Please!Any Britons want to tell me how the BBC copes with FCP…?
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Herb Sevush
March 28, 2006 at 3:18 pmIf you send tapes out to PBS with tone at anything but -20db they will get bounced back. They want peaks at -10db. While this is truly idiotic in terms of quality, it is the way of the world. And yes, -20 notches on the scopes would be very handy.
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Kevin Christopher
March 28, 2006 at 7:34 pmTurn on the tone generator on your dvw-500, and you will see it is set to -20db in unity. As far as I know the broadcast standard for digital video is -20db for tone with peaks not above -10db. All other tapes are rejected.
Kevin
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Neil Ryan
March 29, 2006 at 7:15 amWe speak as one! errr, some of us, anyway.
Nice to know I’m not the only one who likes to adhere to Broadcast Standards when making broadcast masters.I took Jeremy’s advice and posted a very polite request to Apple:
Let your opinion be heard!
https://www.apple.com/feedback/finalcutpro.html
Tell ’em what you want, and be nice.
So look out for a change in their Audio Meters in the future.
If you agree with me, you may want to post a request, too, using the above link.Cheers to all.
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Nicholas Bierzonski
March 30, 2006 at 3:31 amIn my experience you can set your audio to whatever level you prefer as long as it can be heard clearly, and does not distort….It really is subjective and it depends on the final output format. That old digital analog argument. Now that being said.
Just about everyone in the Professional world operates at a different level. If you’re going to ship a tape out of house it’s best to call up the company and find out what level your tone should be set at. That way you can’t go wrong and your boss won’t make you his ex-employee
-Nicholas Bierzonski
Editor/DVD Author/Java Boy
http://www.finalfocusvideo.com
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