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Activity Forums Audio Audio Recorder Clipping When Plugged Into Soundboard

  • Matt Whittemore

    May 16, 2016 at 11:02 pm

    I suppose I just like the idea of having a backup.

  • Brian Reynolds

    May 16, 2016 at 11:16 pm

    Why not just adjust the volume curve / line in post prod, it has to be a LOT easier than doing a cross fade to another track then adjust that level to match…..

  • Matt Whittemore

    May 16, 2016 at 11:25 pm

    That’s what I do, but it will be nice to have a backup recorded at a lower level in case something clips, the DJ decides to raise his levels without telling me, etc. The second recording is a backup. That plus the fact that I can use it with a camera when there’s no need to record a DJ feed made me think it’ll be a good option. Mixers are out of my budget and this seemed like a good compromise. I’m still going to get a pad in case this doesn’t work out.

  • Brian Reynolds

    May 16, 2016 at 11:32 pm

    What sort of video camera are you using?
    This is where ‘auto level’ on the video camera will save you hundreds of hours of work.

  • Matt Whittemore

    May 16, 2016 at 11:33 pm

    A Canon C100

  • Brian Reynolds

    May 16, 2016 at 11:57 pm

    So why not get a feed fro the DJ either by cable or wireless feed it into your camera input and run your camera in ‘auto mode’ page 77 of the c100 manual…. The audio level will then be adjusted by your camera.
    Drop the file into the video edit time line… presto all done.

  • Matt Whittemore

    May 17, 2016 at 12:07 am

    Ok, I’m starting to get confused. Let’s forget about recording to camera for a second. If I was to go from the DJ feed to the recorder, I need an attenuator (pad). Those are basically an XLR male to XLR female adapter that lets me lower the db. So when the soundboard only has rca or 3.5mm available, am I just plugging in adapters? For example, the soundboard has rca out and my recorder is 3.5mm in. I would need an rca to xlr adapter and a second xlr to 3.5mm adapter? The problem is that the sound board isn’t always xlr.

  • Brian Reynolds

    May 17, 2016 at 12:27 am

    Ok…. the output of the DJ mixer is LINE LEVEL and comes out either on an XLR or RCA connector.
    This CAN be plugged into the input of a recorder / camera with a LINE LEVEL input (without the use of a pad or any sort of attenuation)

    If you want to feed the DJ signal into a recorder / camera that DOES NOT have a line level input and only has a Mic level input (like the H2n) then the incoming signal level needs to lowered (externally before going to the recorder / camera) this is called attenuating the signal and is done with an ‘Attenuation PAD’

    If the incoming DJ signal level is all over the place and beyond your control then you will need to adjust the level at some time in the production….. either at the time of the recording either by using a recorder / camera with ‘AUTO LEVEL’ where the electronics in the recorder unit does the work for you…… or manually adjusted at the moment of recording by a human adjusting a knob up or down…. or record the DJ knowing that they will get louder and keeping this as your highest level and accepting the lower music / speech level and doing the adjust in post production.

  • Matt Whittemore

    May 17, 2016 at 12:40 am

    ok, I get that. So if the signal comes out of an RCA connector, I’ll just need an RCA to XLR adapter, since all the pads I see are XLR. And when the DJ mixer only has a 1/4″ stereo plug available, same thing…1/4″ to XLR. Is that correct?

    For reference, this is the pad I purchased:

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000K67U52/ref=ya_st_dp_summary

  • Brian Reynolds

    May 17, 2016 at 12:48 am

    Yep you’ve got it…. the Pad you ordered is fine.
    And the reason for putting it into an XLR barrel is there is some electronic components in there, and they fit in nicely. tying to put them into an RCA or other sort of connector is quite difficult.

    Pads can be used in EITHER direction…… so there is no defined in or out

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