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  • Audio mixing (track not clip) .Precise numeric entry for KF db levels?

    Posted by Tom Daigon on August 21, 2011 at 8:08 pm

    Ive done a lot of tutorials on setting and mixing audio levels, both clip and track in PrP 5.5 . I want to know the best way to add a key frame on the timeline (in track audio mode) and enter a precise db setting. Dragging up and down is pretty random and not accurate, especially when setting levels for 2 mono tracks for stereo.

    I am not interested in using the track mixer in live mode because again it is to inaccurate and needs cleaning up. I tried right clicking on the key frames and got everything EXCEPT the ability for numeric entry. A real basic function for audio mixing.

    Tom Daigon
    Avid DS / PrP / After Effects Editor
    http://www.hdshotsandcuts.com
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    Alex Udell replied 14 years, 9 months ago 2 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Tom Daigon

    August 22, 2011 at 12:16 am

    There is a way to enter numbers in the effects panel for the audio track, but the right click option is still a more efficient and direct way to do this.

    Tom Daigon
    Avid DS / PrP / After Effects Editor
    http://www.hdshotsandcuts.com
    Mac Pro 3,1
    8 core
    10.6.8
    Nvidia Quadro 4000
    24 gigs ram
    Maxx Digita / Areca 8tb. raid

  • Tom Daigon

    August 22, 2011 at 2:50 am

    Well, upon further inspections its the CLIP volume key frames that are displayed in the Audio Effects area. When you are trying to do TRACK key frames on the timeline, its necessary to click on the SHOW KEY FRAMES icon at the start of the TL audio track. When you switch to SHOW TRACK KEY FRAMES suddenly the clip cannot be loaded in the SOURCE window (which kind of makes sense) and so the TRACK key frames are not visible for numeric entry.

    So the problem with no ability for numeric entry assigning key frames a db still exists.

    Tom Daigon
    Avid DS / PrP / After Effects Editor
    http://www.hdshotsandcuts.com
    Mac Pro 3,1
    8 core
    10.6.8
    Nvidia Quadro 4000
    24 gigs ram
    Maxx Digita / Areca 8tb. raid

  • Tom Daigon

    August 22, 2011 at 3:29 am

    I just gave up on the track approach. Doing it as a clip approach is way easier. I just make the key frame, go the the audio effects window and enter the db level. Done. I did however put in a feature request to be able to right click on any key frame and enter a numeric that way. Im not sure how many other folks are going to request it, but I sure loved and needed that function in FCP and Avid.

    Tom Daigon
    Avid DS / PrP / After Effects Editor
    http://www.hdshotsandcuts.com
    Mac Pro 3,1
    8 core
    10.6.8
    Nvidia Quadro 4000
    24 gigs ram
    Maxx Digita / Areca 8tb. raid

  • Alex Udell

    August 22, 2011 at 2:27 pm

    Hi Tom….

    hmmmmm

    as far as numerics go….you got me…that’s a definite oversight…

    Here’s something you can do though.

    If you have so much track level automation that it’s cumbersome to adjust and select keyframes on that track…

    You can add a submix track to the timeline and in the mixer panel route your audio track to the sumbix track.

    Then on the timeline you can add just a few keyframes to the submix track to offset levels out of the source track automation to get the level you want.

    some other pointers…

    if you are using the pen tool you, can marquee select audio keyframes in the timeline….where as the arrow tool won’t let you do that.

    Also in your audio prefs, you can adjust the Keyframe automation to “minimum time interval thinning” and adjust to your taste. I set mine to about 500. This makes the keyframes created by recorded automation in the mixer fewer, and thus a bit more manageable for editing after the fact.

    Hope that helps….

    Alex

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