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  • Audio Mix 5.1 Advice

    Posted by Scott O’hara on June 26, 2014 at 6:11 pm

    Hello all,

    Recently had a short film mixed in 5.1. All went well except for one line that is horrible. It was a bad mic that we had in mix (didn’t have time to go back and search through source files for a better one – I’m operating on very low budget and we were already hours over) so ended up using it. But it basically drops off quite a bit compared to all other lines of dialogue in the scene.

    Here’s the issue. Out of money, so I can’t go back and reedit that in, change in mix and reexport the 5.1 tracks as that’s already been done.

    Is there ANY way, I can do this myself? I have access to all source files, original offline edits. So I can easily find the better take (if one exists). But my question would be what’s the best way to slip that dialogue into the 5.1 mix that already exists? Is it as easy as just dropping it over into the timeline in Premiere (what I’m editing on) and matching as best as possible to existing dialogue? Or should I be running it through Pro Tools or Adobe Audition and exporting with particular settings? But again, I’m sure I’d have to layer it over in Premiere since I don’t have access to the original ProTools workflow from the mixer.

    I’m fairly green when it comes to audio mixing and so forth so hopefully something like this is doable. Again it’s pretty short line so hopefully there’s a quick fix to this.

    Thanks in advance.

    Peter Groom replied 11 years, 10 months ago 3 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Peter Groom

    June 27, 2014 at 12:50 pm

    what files do you have of the surround mix.
    If you have diecreet mixes (ie 6 x wav files, then yes you can drop the new audio into the file in a daw and export and as long as you get levels right and keep the file exactly as it was name. klength, sample rate, bit depth – not a proble,

    If its a pro tools session youll need that and be able to config everything (which isnt going to happen)
    If its a surround encoded ac3 file then youre sunk and will have to live with it or make a new ac3 file from the original studio.
    Peter

    Post Production Dubbing Mixer

  • Richard Dekkard

    June 28, 2014 at 10:59 pm

    generally a good portion of dialogue is in the center channel, so you could drop in the “better” dialogue take on the center channel and then re-export your stems or interleaved master. but you will have to deal with matching tone and context of the “better” take to the rest of the scene.

    hope that helps

  • Peter Groom

    June 29, 2014 at 10:19 am

    yes thats what i was suggesting but it relies on you having discreets.
    If you onl=y have an encoded ac3 (which is what it needs to end up as) then youre sunk.
    Peter

    Post Production Dubbing Mixer

  • Scott O’hara

    July 9, 2014 at 4:21 am

    Okay,

    So I have 6 channels. And the dialogue is coming from just the center channel. No other BG going on in that channel. Obviously I would have to match tone and such as mentioned above. Hopefully they didn’t do anything crazy in ProTools…

    But having 6 channels is what you mean by discreets?

    Thanks for the help guys.

  • Peter Groom

    July 9, 2014 at 7:12 am

    Correct
    Drop into that centre channel. Keep length exactly the same. Heal it back into 1 file and name.
    Check there is no hint of the dialogue in tracks l and r as there could be some divergence

    Peter

    Post Production Dubbing Mixer

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