Audio Frame Rate

[Terence Curren]

They need to be imported again into the new project at the new frame rate. I believe you could export an ALE of your music bin, import that into the other project and batch import to keep all your metada.

Terence Curren
http://www.alphadogs.tv
http://www.digitalservicestation.com
Burbank,Ca

[Patrick Carter]

Thanks Terence. I’m not familiar with ALE … I read a bit about it online – but is that something I’d have to download, don’t see that setting in my export options. I made sure the Media Creation setting/Media Type tab was at MXF, tried importing from the OMF drive to no avail. I’m apparently going at this the wrong way?

[Terence Curren]

You can’t reimport the OMF media files like that. You need to import from the original audio files.

If you have a lot of metadata like song name, CD it came from, etc. that you have manually entered, then you want to go the batch import route.

If not, just import the songs again into your new project.

If you do need all that info, you have to get it into your differing frame rate project. Just opening the bin in your new project won’t work as the frame rate doesn’t match. The cheat is to get the info out of one frame rate and into another. You can do that by selecting all the audio clips in the bin and choosing ALE export.

This is probably not a preset on your system, so you need to manually create it. Select “untitled” from your export menu. No go into options and near the bottom you will see Avid Log Exchange (ALE) as an option. Select that. You can save it to untitled or create a new setting called ALE.

This will write a text file wherever you saved it. Open that in a text editor and you will see project info followed by clip info. It will have the frame rate of your current project. Change that to the frame rate of the new project. Now go into that new project and import that ALE. You will have a new bin full of your clips. Select them all and choose “batch import” and follow through the prompts and point to your original audio files and they will import and be ready to go.

Of course the joke in all of this is that there is NO frame rate to audio. But Avid works in frame rate so you have no other way round this.

Terence Curren
http://www.alphadogs.tv
http://www.digitalservicestation.com
Burbank,Ca

[Patrick Carter]

I’m really appreciative of your help.

I went into my 29.976 project and exported a music bin to my desktop with ALE. I opened the ALE file with TextEdit and changed the video format to 720 and the FPS to 23.976.

Then I opened my 23.976 project, created a new bin, but wasn’t able to import the ALE file. Keep getting an error that says “A error occurred on event #1. A tape name was expected but it is not present.”

These tracks weren’t even associated with a tape?

Any ideas on getting the ALE file to import?

[Job Ter burg]

Make sure that your ShotLog Import Options are set to “maintain events as logged”.

[Patrick Carter]

Still getting the same error!

Ideas, anyone?

[Terence Curren]

This would be a great time for Michael Philips to jump in….

Terence Curren
http://www.alphadogs.tv
http://www.digitalservicestation.com
Burbank,Ca

[Bill Stephan]

All you need to do is export an .aif or .wav file(s) of the audio from the project with the old frame rate and then import the files into the project with the new frame rate. Because Avid only cares that there are 48,000 samples/second, you can take the files to a new frame rate. Everything will hold sync. This is one method used by audio houses to lay a completed mix into multiple video masters with different frame rates.

Bill Stephan
Senior Editor/DVD Author
USA Studios
New York City

[Patrick Carter]

This worked … thank you!

It will be a bit time consuming, as I have thousands of tracks to convert, but nonetheless …

[Patrick Carter]

I apologize for creating such an annoying post, but …

I’m trying to export the music tracks from my 29.97 project to a folder on my desktop … then the plan is to import them into my 23.976 project so they play as MXF files. I can export one track at a time, import it to the new project, and it works perfectly.

But if I select all the music tracks in a particular bin (for ex. 500 songs), I can’t figure out a way to batch export? If I “select all” in the bin and drag/drop to a folder on my desktop, approx 8 songs get transferred and it just stops, nothing happens with the other 492 songs?

Ahhhhhh!!!!