Audio editing in X

[Jeremy Garchow]

Nice one, Andy. Even easier.

[Jeremy Garchow]

[Charlie Austin] “Correct, but opening the master in a timeline and assigning roles to components(channels) before editing is a great timesaver… Way faster than any track-patching… ;-)”

Yes.

The problem is that if you have a ton of clips, opening each one in timeline takes a while.

I can tag multiple components in a Project.

But I agree with you, especially for the original poster who sounds like they are working from a master program. Setting up Role information as early as possible allows you to save much more time in the end, and in most cases, you won’t have to think about it again.

[Charlie Austin]

[Jeremy Garchow] “The problem is that if you have a ton of clips, opening each one in timeline takes a while. “

Agreed. It’d be nice to be able to paste Role info, (or assign on import) to clips with the same component layout. Probably do-able but maybe not at the top of the list of Role enhancements. 🙂

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[Trevor Asquerthian]

Jeremy, Andy, Nikolas, Thanks for the Roles info – I agree it does work as described.

I still think I’d probably go the multi cam route as it is easier to add transitions and adjust edits. (It also gives me the chance to nest a score bug and be editing with a composited clip. )

The roles workflow also means it’s tricky to monitor both audio tracks for level, while only listening to the the ‘full mix’ output. Typically I’m editing 2 x stereo pairs, and only listening to the full mix, but I want to see that tracks 3&4 look right on the PPMs. Not easy with only a 2 track output, however easy it may be to make a multichannel QT at the end.

Also often the delivery is baseband video – i.e. play out straight from the NLE, rather than making a file. Again FCPx lack of audio mixer precludes this as far as I can see.

But i’m only trying X out, not editing on it for real, so there may well be better / easier workflows when doing it for real. Interested to hear them / see examples. Thanks again for the feedback.

[Nikolas Bäurle]

Audiocomponents rock more than I thought! You learn something every day.

“Always look on the bright side of life” – Monty Python

[Jeremy Garchow]

You’re right Trevor in that there is no multichannel audio monitoring. You can only see the summed output unless you solo Roles.

[Michael Sanders]

You don’t need to bother wilt roles. In the inspector before you bring the clip into the sequence set the clip audio to dual mono and pan ch 1 left and ch 2 right. Then commentary will stay on 1 and intl feed on ch 2.

Michael Sanders
London Based DP/Editor

[Kevin Rag]

Wow! Thanks for all the responses guys. Soryy, I couldn’t reply earlier due to the 13/14 hrs time difference. It’s 7.45 am here, am about to switch on the AMc. Will try the different methods outlined and report back.
A big Happy New Year to all:)

Kannan Raghavan
The Big Toad Films Pte. Ltd.

[Kevin Rag]

In 7, i just add edit on trk 2 (efx trk), alt+shift drag onto trk 1 wherever i wanted to cover the commentary that didn’t make sense due to the video edits. It was really easy.

Kannan Raghavan
The Big Toad Films Pte. Ltd.

[Kevin Rag]

Yes Trevor, you’re right. After we go off air, I have 5 min to start putting the 52 min highlight program on tape or playout to the EVS (sometimes). So speed is of utmost importance. My output is always CH 1 full mix, Ch 2 int’l sound ( M & E). Will try the methods suggested here and see how it goes.

Kannan Raghavan
The Big Toad Films Pte. Ltd.