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ATTO FC card and Boot Camp?
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“so what you’re trying to do won’t work”
I don’t care if the Kona card (or the ATTO card for that matter) doesn’t work in Windows. I need to occasionally boot into Windows. The Kona card doesn’t get in the way of this working but the ATTO card does.
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So, are you asking a question or just pointlessly ranting? ATTO’s response that sounded like “we’re not going to think about it until it’s released” is pretty unrealistic. I’m not asking that they make their product *work* with Boot Camp; I’m asking that they make their product not *break* Boot Camp.
“It would be NICE if APPLE send their development partners a computer, and a phone number for software support, but they DO NOT.”
You’re incorrect. Apple does *exactly* this. AJA is a good example. They knew about the EFI update before it was released and had their greater-than-2GB problem fixed very quickly. ATTO didn’t even have a Mac Pro for *weeks* after the Mac Pro shipped and they still don’t have a released driver for their FC cards (a beta but not a released driver).
“Do you think that APPLE is helping AVID get the Media Composer application working on the MAC Pro ?”
Um, yes, actually. Do you think it’s in Apple’s best interest to force an Avid user to switch to Windows? Apple makes most of it’s money from hardware, not software. Apple supports a huge number of companies that compete with them. It’s why they have the World Wide Developer Conference every year.
fh
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[fergush] “You’re incorrect. Apple does *exactly* this. AJA is a good example. They knew about the EFI update before it was released and had their greater-than-2GB problem fixed very quickly. ATTO didn’t even have a Mac Pro for *weeks* after the Mac Pro shipped and they still don’t have a released driver for their FC cards (a beta but not a released driver).”
AJA is an exception. I know of three major companies that I speak to on a regular basis that literally had engineers and staff going to Apple Stores on the day the machines were released trying to get one. I’m not even sure AJA actually had the machines in-house prior to their release or if they were able to solve the problem so quickly becuase they work directly with the FCP team. ATTO does not and neither do most of the 3rd party vendors. AJA has proven to be one of the best partners Apple has and that’s why they are able to work so closely with the Apple team and solve issues quickly.
The fact that it took ATTO weeks to get a machine does not surprise me in the least.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
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“I know of three major companies that I speak to on a regular basis that literally had engineers and staff going to Apple Stores on the day the machines were released trying to get one.”
Yeah, I was one of those people! 😉
My point isn’t that Apple is perfect – they are far from it. My point is that Boot Camp is a beta but it’s been out for a while, isn’t going to go away and is going to get wrapped up in the OS. I don’t expect ATTO to support it but I think they should make sure their product doesn’t actually break it. They are going to have to do that work anyway – it’s a pay now or pay later-type thing. I’ve just got no time for vendors who stick their heads in the sand. Part of the price of being an Apple developer is working around Apple’s weirdness and I’m disappointed that ATTO doesn’t seem to be trying. At the end of the day, it’s a business decision on their part (I don’t actually think they are idiots) but I think it’s a bad one. It’s a bummer to have to use Windows but it’s even more of a bummer to have to use another computer to do it. Not the end of the world though…
regards,
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[fergush] “My point is that Boot Camp is a beta but it’s been out for a while, isn’t going to go away and is going to get wrapped up in the OS. I don’t expect ATTO to support it but I think they should make sure their product doesn’t actually break it. They are going to have to do that work anyway – it’s a pay now or pay later-type thing.”
I’m curious just how many people will actually install Boot Camp and Windows on their FCP editing systems. I know I wouldn’t do that and I honestly haven’t heard one other editor mention the need or want to do that. I see Boot Camp / Parallels / Windows more for laptop folks or graphics folks.
Would be an interesting survey for sure to see just what kind of demand there is for that scenario. I can’t imagine there would be much, but you never know.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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That’s a very interesting question. I think you’re right and most people wouldn’t want to mess with a primary editing system. I can’t imagine we’ll ever see Windows versions of Apple’s pro apps (what a horrible thought!). I guess I could see someone might want to use it if they wanted to check output (say, Web video output) on Windows. However, for that Parallels would probably be more appealing or VMware (which I’m using a beta of right now; pretty nice). Another example would be if you’ve got to accept files from someone on Windows and you need to be able to use the native format – something like Premiere Pro or Avid. But I think you’re right.
It’s still weird to me that the best Windows desktop is now made by Apple! We’re buying a lot of Mac Pros instead of Dell Precision Workstation 690s. The Mac is quieter and cheaper and, in most other areas, equal. It doesn’t run Vista well yet but I’m Apple will soon change.
fh
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It works on my Quad-Core Intel Xeon with Leopard,Win XPSP2,Aja Kona 3 , Ciprico 4210 with Atto card. I can run Win but I cant see Ciprico
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Hello,
I would like to ask if there is anything new since 2006/08 and if anyone is using an ATTO FC Raid within Boot Camp. I’m working on a Mac Pro 12Core Intel Xeon X-5670, and for 3ds Max, I run Windows 7 using Boot Camp. An AJA Kona 3 and an ATTO FC Raid are installed, and it would be nice if I could use the FC Storage.
Regards,
silverbeat
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