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  • Winston A. cely

    July 23, 2009 at 7:33 pm

    They specifically mention an “improved Media Manager” that “optimized to improve media trimming, especially for clips with speed changes, multicam clips, and anamorphic media.” That’s the one thing I was hoping for, and it looks like they’ve finally addressed the issues. It may not be perfect yet (hell, no ones had a chance to use it yet) but I’m sure it’s better than it was! OK, anything would be better than Media Manager was.

    I hate to say it, but I think you may be jumping the gun a bit early. I say after some of us guinea pigs jump on board the new Studio, try it out, and if it fails by that point, we all march on Apple’s Campus! 😀 Until then, I think the update/upgrade is pretty exciting (especially at the upgrade price point!)

    As far as Blu-ray, yeah, yeah, yeah. Disappointing, but whatever. There are other programs out there doing a better job of Blu-ray, and I’ve yet to have more than one client actually request Blu-ray. Most people are happy with a QuickTime file in the format they need and go from there. FCS does everything I need and from the looks of it, for most people here. I think if I ever really needed to have a Blu-ray disc authored, I’d give that work to Walter.

    Winston A. Cely
    Editor/Owner | Della St. Media, LLC

    Mac Pro 3GHz Dual-Core Intel Xeon
    4 GB RAM | Final Cut Studio 5.1.4 | Aja Kona LHe

    “If you can talk brilliantly enough about a subject, you can create the consoling allusion it has been mastered.” – Stanley Kubrick

  • Matt Tureck

    July 23, 2009 at 7:37 pm

    Changes that I (a broadcast news pro) wanted…

    Ability to set markers during digitization
    One touch top and tails
    Multi-user interface
    Capture directly to timeline
    Ability to see TC and audio levels while digitizing

    I’ll probably remember more soon.

  • Andrew Kimery

    July 23, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    I don’t think Apple should sell off the ProApps if for no other reason than that Apple sells it’s software ridiculously cheap. I mean, how many companies can take an app like Final Touch 2k (aka Color) that retailed for $25k, do some tweaks, and include it in a software bundle at no extra charge?

    I honestly believe we’ll get a from-the-ground-up rewrite of FCP after Snow Leopard is done. I was just surprised Apple released a new version of the suite before then. But I guess Apple felt they couldn’t wait for SL since the suite was already more than two years old. That’s also why I think the price dropped too.

    -A

    3.2GHz 8-core, FCP 6.0.4, 10.5.5
    Blackmagic Multibridge Eclipse (6.8.1)

  • Stefan Kroesbacher

    July 23, 2009 at 8:13 pm

    Hi,

    hmm, a minor update, yes…BUT:

    background rendering.. YES!!
    Ichat Theatre…YES!!!
    Motion— TRUE 3D Feel… Finally bye bye to AE

    Blu-Ray support… Ok – very good for the basics… Really Pro Software for Authoring Blu-Ray starts at 12.000 USD and isn’t much of an intuitive interface…

    Still makes me wonder how much of snow leopard is implemented.
    Snow leopard ships in 2 months. i don’t think will bring an update for some time now to FCS (NAB earliest although not very likely)…
    So it has to be in there somewhere…

    excited to see, and at 299USD definitely worth the price!

    Sad that you still can’t have behaviours like throw etc from motion in FCP.
    Roundtripping can be tricky some times…

    And the Shake follow up isn’t there too…

    but, already ordered….

  • Winston A. cely

    July 23, 2009 at 8:18 pm

    As someone who had a client on the opposite coast iChat Theater integration is ground breaking. Background rendering is terrific as well, and Motion is to the point were the only thing I know I’ll need is 3D lettering. Kinda wish that was in this one, but no worries.

    Winston A. Cely
    Editor/Owner | Della St. Media, LLC

    Mac Pro 3GHz Dual-Core Intel Xeon
    4 GB RAM | Final Cut Studio 5.1.4 | Aja Kona LHe

    “If you can talk brilliantly enough about a subject, you can create the consoling allusion it has been mastered.” – Stanley Kubrick

  • Michael Sacci

    July 23, 2009 at 8:21 pm

    FCP has been on a 2 year cycle for several releases now, the only difference way we saw it months before it shipped. FCs2 showed at NAB 07 but didn’t ship for another month.

    How many apps get a total rewrite? If FCS gets one look for it no sooner than 2 years.

  • Andrew Kimery

    July 23, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    [Michael Sacci] “FCP has been on a 2 year cycle for several releases now, the only difference way we saw it months before it shipped. FCs2 showed at NAB 07 but didn’t ship for another month.
    FCP 2 thru 5 saw updates every year (including the big, free .5 update FCP 4 received) so it’s not like it would be unprecedented to get another significant update in 2010. Honestly, if the updates we got today are the only significant updates we get until 2011 that’s pretty disappointing, IMO. I mean, should it really take Apple four years to release v2.0 of Color?


    How many apps get a total rewrite? If FCS gets one look for it no sooner than 2 years.

    How many apps are the corner stone of the suite and based on code from 1998? 😉

    -A

    3.2GHz 8-core, FCP 6.0.4, 10.5.5
    Blackmagic Multibridge Eclipse (6.8.1)

  • Michael Horton

    July 23, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    You all got to understand that this is a SUITE OF APPS, not just Final Cut Pro so you got teams of folks working on their apps while the others wait until they finish. I’d think the logistics managing all this could easily take 2 years and could easily be somewhat nightmarish.

    Michael Horton
    lafcpug
    https://www.lafcpug.org

  • Philip Owens

    July 23, 2009 at 11:31 pm

    I think we can safely assume that Snow Leopard will make a very significant difference to the performance of all these apps. Apple have always said that multi-core performance optimisation was one of the key tasks for SL, and early leaks from the SL tests (poke about the net) suggest that all CPU’s are very maximally used. If that’s the case, you might easily see at least double your current performance on multi-CPU (Intel) systems, just by upgrading the OS (for the paltry sum of $29) -and who knows how much more performance will be there, given that FCP7 is Open CL-aware, and will presumably be shoving a hell of a lot lot of work out to the GPU. I think the really important question is – has the codebase been completely updated to Cocoa? If so, this release will mark a really important foundation for future development that they have probably been unable to achieve in the past, what with them supporting both Cocoa and Carbon code, and Intel and PPC CPU’s. Once liberated to focus only on one path, I think the next releases are going to have very significant technological leaps.

  • Elijah Lynn

    July 24, 2009 at 12:08 am

    You make a very god case! I gave you 5 cows!

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