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  • Assets come in interlaced – but are progressive…and…

    Posted by Brian Murphy on May 5, 2011 at 5:49 pm

    Hey guys,
    I just can’t figure out if this is a bug or I’m simply missing something….

    I create a sequence that is progressive. I import progressive animations rendered out of After Effects. They come in Odd Field First. I always have to change this. How do I have them default to progressive?

    Another thing is when I place an asset into the timeline of a progressive sequence. I later discover that the asset I placed is showing as interlaced, I change it, it still shows it being interlaced in the viewer until I press the cursor left or right buttons to scrub through the timeline, then it corrects itself. If I cursor back to the frame that first showed it interlaced, the interlacing is still there on that frame. It’s as though there is some kind of refresh problem or RAM is not being updated.

    Am I missing a basic setting of some kind?

    Thanks all,
    Brian

    Rich Rubasch replied 15 years ago 4 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Alex Elkins

    May 5, 2011 at 8:28 pm

    Hi Brian,

    Something similar was happening to me the other day. I’m not 100% sure what’s causing it and our issues may be unrelated but you never know.

    Are you seeing the problem only in the FCP canvas and viewer, or on an external monitor?

    Do you have an AJA card installed?

    Bizarrely for me I found that if my Kona card was outputting 8bit I saw no issues but at 10bit the issues were there. Also by re-sizing the canvas/viewer windows to exactly 50% (or 25, 75 and 100%) the interlace artifacts disappeared. I never saw any issue on my external monitor, but within FCP and with QuickTime outputs the problem was clearly visible.

    I still don’t know why this was happening but if my fixes work for you maybe it will help to shed some light on the cause of this. My only hunch was that it was a QuickTime bug. No reason why the Kona settings should have any effect within FCP/QuickTime and yet they did!

    Alex Elkins
    Twitter: @postbluetv
    http://www.PostBlue.tv
    Shot on RED @ 100fps, Post on FCP/Color: Capoeira Film

  • Alex Elkins

    May 5, 2011 at 8:52 pm

    [Dave LaRonde] “never trust the FCP viewers to make a judgement about image quality.”

    Of course normally I would agree, it’s common sense to trust only your broadcast monitor BUT, get this – exporting a full quality QuickTime, compressing for DVD, burning disc and playing back on a DVD player hooked up to a TV still showed the same interlace artifacts as the canvas/viewer, whilst the whole time the Kona output was clean as a whistle. I could replicate this problem every time, and as soon as I changed the Kona output to 8bit or resized the canvas/viewer windows the issue disappeared throughout.

    Usually I don’t care what the viewer and canvas windows look like as long as my calibrated monitor looks good, but if it’s effecting file outputs then it’s a cause for concern.

    I still don’t understand why this is happening as neither the Kona nor the scale of the canvas and viewer windows should have any effect whatsoever on QuickTime outputs. Nevertheless I’ve found a way to avoid it, so I just wanted to share it with the O/P in case it fixed things for him.

    Alex Elkins
    Twitter: @postbluetv
    http://www.PostBlue.tv
    Shot on RED @ 100fps, Post on FCP/Color: Capoeira Film

  • Atticus Culver-rease

    May 5, 2011 at 10:05 pm

    I’ve posted about this issue before and I believe it’s a bug in FCP. The workaround is what you’re already doing, which is to manually change the field order to “none” for each clip. If you’ve already edited clips to the timeline without changing the field order first you will need to select each clip in the timeline as well, then right-click and go to item properties>format and change the field order to “none” there as well. If it still doesn’t show up properly I would select the clips in the timeline and do a ctrl+B and then ctrl+B again to turn Clip Enable off and then on again. I don’t remember off the top of my head if that’s something I’ve had to do every time this issue pops up, or just some of the time, but if your changes don’t seem to be sticking I would try it.

  • Rich Rubasch

    May 6, 2011 at 2:35 am

    Agreed…I do this all the time. It is a bug. Especially with DVCPro50 SD clips. I think with all the codecs and possible combinations both AE and FCP make a best guess, but you have to be the master of your domain and set it the way you need it and know it needs to be set.

    It is best to import your progressive renders from AE and set the item properties in the bin. I believe it will maintain that setting once dragged into a sequence.

    It is a hassle.

    I’m certain FCP 10 fixes all this….not.

    Rich Rubasch
    Tilt Media Inc.
    Video Production, Post, Studio Sound Stage
    Founder/President/Editor/Designer/Animator
    https://www.tiltmedia.com

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