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  • Asked a question about PPRO that I couldn’t answer…..

    Posted by Jan Janowski on September 22, 2013 at 12:31 pm

    I was asked this question asked me about PPRO that I couldn’t answer, and I so I ask it here….. because now it’s getting personal….. and I can’t figure it out!

    Let’s say you want the output Timecode display on the program monitor to match the source footage Timecode for each scene.

    I’m used to setting the output timecode, but I’ve never attempted to have the source timecode be the output timecode…. Granted, as scenes fly by it will cause jumping timecode at output..

    I’ve tried to do this and I must be having a senior moment, as I’m drawing a blank on this…..

    Can this be done? Thanks!

    Looking for 1939 Indian Motocycle

    Jan Janowski replied 12 years, 7 months ago 4 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Alex Udell

    September 22, 2013 at 3:50 pm

    I assume this was coming from the Avid community.

    Off the top of my head:

    This, historically, has been in the info panel in PPro and not directly available as a burn in on the program panel.

    Ok for you as the editor, not great if you’re working with a producer who wants to track this during a session…

    you could use the timecode fx filters on a clip by clip basis to set this up….but that’s not really practical during the course of the edit.

    It MAY be the case that this is addressed in the new IBC feature releases of PPro CC…

    take a look a this:

    “A host of new editing features are included in this release designed to speed up the creative process. The new Monitor Overlays feature allows for critical information to be superimposed in both Source and Program Monitors. Designed to be flexible and customizable, editors can select which metadata is displayed and where, so important information such as clip timecode, edit point indicators and marker comments can be seen at a glance and in context. ”

    https://blogs.adobe.com/premierepro/2013/09/adobe-premiere-pro-cc-october-2013-release.html

    go get ’em Jan!

    Alex Udell
    Editing, Motion Graphics, and Visual FX

  • Jan Janowski

    September 22, 2013 at 4:17 pm

    More information…. CS6 not CC

    Not Avid related. PPRO only.. I believe Client wants this as a “Keeper” take selection, so that he can watch a DVD Or BR from his hotel room and pre-select the in and out points from the Keeper takes…
    I know I can burn in TC on each source clip, and that is my fall back solution, but the client prefers clean video so he’s not trying to look past the burnin….

    Say you have 2 clips one with 2 hour TC, second with 0 hour TC.

    Want the TC of PPRO Program monitor to track source clip’s TC… I understand TC will Jump….

    Looking for 1939 Indian Motocycle

  • Alex Udell

    September 22, 2013 at 5:36 pm

    ok….

    in cs6…

    you will have to use the Timecode video effect, per clip…

    so set it up on one clip….then copy paste attributes to other clips in the timeline….you MAY want to duplicate the sequence as a “window burn master” prior to adding the effect and exporting just to make it easier to manage the fx…

    not also that you can can also add the fx to a tranparent video layer that runs the length of the seq…so you could display seq tc ans well as source (clip) tc in the burn so whn your client requests changes he can refer to the clip at the run time in the seq as well as the source tc to look for alt takes, etc….

    see below:

    “View timecode as a burn-in

    You can display clip timecode within the video preview of the clip by applying the Timecode effect to that clip. You can display timecode within the video preview of any part of a sequence by applying the Timecode effect to a transparent video clip. then trim the transparent video clip for the period when you want the timecode visible. Onscreen timecode is commonly referred to as burn-in timecode. It is used in rough edits and proofs to give frame-accurate reference points to editors and their collaborators.

    View clip timecode as a burn-in
    In the Effects panel, click the triangle next to the Video Effects bin to open it. Then, click the triangle next to the Video bin to open it.
    Drag the Timecode effect and drop it onto a clip in a sequence.
    Click the Effect Controls panel to make the panel active.
    Click the triangle next to Timecode to expose the options for this effect.
    Adjust the options as needed.”

    from: https://help.adobe.com/en_US/premierepro/cs/using/WS1c9bc5c2e465a58a91cf0b1038518aef7-7f81a.html#WS74D3CAFC-6554-49d3-81EF-9699C8B9BAD0a

    Alex Udell
    Editing, Motion Graphics, and Visual FX

  • Jan Janowski

    September 23, 2013 at 12:38 am

    So there is no way to do the timecode as requested?
    I am familiar with the Timecode effect…. I’ve used that in the past…. Ain’t it fun trying to appease client?

    Looking for 1939 Indian Motocycle

  • Tero Ahlfors

    September 23, 2013 at 7:58 am

    Davinci Resolve lite might do what you want.

  • Alex Udell

    September 23, 2013 at 10:44 am

    How can it be a BR or a DVD without a Burn in?

    Sorry….what you are asking for is not clear to me…

    Alex Udell
    Editing, Motion Graphics, and Visual FX

  • Alex Udell

    September 23, 2013 at 10:47 am

    as far as setting the Program monitor to track source TC…in CS6….without an overlay on the video of some sort…

    don’t think this is doable….

    Alex Udell
    Editing, Motion Graphics, and Visual FX

  • Peter Garaway

    September 24, 2013 at 12:25 am

    We’ve done a look of work in this area for our October release of Premiere CC. You’ll now have the ability to view Source Timecode as a monitor overlay.

    https://blogs.adobe.com/premierepro/2013/09/adobe-premiere-pro-cc-october-2013-release.html

    Best,

    Peter Garaway
    Adobe
    Premiere Pro

  • Jan Janowski

    September 24, 2013 at 3:31 pm

    Thanks Peter. Unfortunately, due to other issues, I’ll be sticking to CS6, but it’s good to know that CS7 will address this issue..

    Looking for 1939 Indian Motocycle

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