Art doesn’t pay

[Bob Zelin]

Oh My God – I love this video. (Isn’t this OT, and not relating to FCP X the debate).
I had a teacher at Polytechnic Institute of NY, who told me (as I was failing out in my class) – “Mr. Zelin, maybe you are not cut out to be an engineer”. That was 1976.
And from the immortal words of Woody Allen from the movie Annie Hall –
“Those who can’t do, teach. And those who can’t teach, teach gym”

Thanks for posting.

Bob Zelin

Bob Zelin
Rescue 1, Inc.
bobzelin@icloud.com

[Bill Davis]

[Bob Zelin] “”Those who can’t do, teach. And those who can’t teach, teach gym””

Hey Bob. I know it’s a “movie joke” but the fact that you interjected this thought here, makes you an idiot. Seriously.

Here’s why.

My wife is a former instructional specialist for a large school district.
She now has a side hustle teaching english to kids in China via telepresence.
She gets up at 3:30am 4 days a week due to the time difference.
She does this, because she LOVES being a teacher. And missed it terribly since society doesn’t value this skillset like it once did.

And with crap posts like this – you’re perpetuating that “joke.”

This morning, she was live on-line again, administering a final “level test” to a sweet little girl in Shanghai.
After the girl passed her tests (as hoped), she and my wife got to spend a pre-arranged half hour having an impromptu tea party and reading a new Diary of a Wimpy Kid English book out loud to each other to celebrate said sweet little girl’s success.

Education – one on one – across the PLANET connected by two things. Lindas hard won, high level teachers skills as a former large school district instructional specialist – which is the background lubricant which makes her EFFECTIVE with initially shy, unsure students like this sweet little girl.
And global technology that was almost exclusively invented by people who generally had to be EDUCATED in order to attain the skills to invent it.

So I’m looking at that quote you so blithely posted above – and, (let me make this clear, again) sending you an electronic loud and distinctly articulated FU.

In my world, those who can actually teach well … are the front line between civilization and anarchy.

The “exceptions” like Jobs and Gates in this, are NOT the rule. The RULE is the rule.

And quality education making a positive difference in anyone’s life is the single most dependable rule of them all.

Period.

Oh, and teaching “GYM” today, is something neither you, nor I, nor most reading this thread would be allowed to do — not without a boatload of training in exercise physiology. Because like everything else — times have changed.

Being an ex- jock is no longer the key skill to getting a position teaching in a school athletic department today. Oddly, it takes EDUCATION now.

Go figure.

Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
The shortest path to FCP X mastery.

[Scott Witthaus]

Easy there Bill. I teach as well and take no offense. I do like the line from that movie. It is funny, however, when I started teaching in addition to my editorial work, so many colleagues came up and said “oh man, I would LOVE to teach”.

Having been in the business (post) for over 30 years I like this line better: “It’s all art and commerce. Art goes on your demo reel and commerce pays the bills”.

Scott Witthaus
Visual Storyteller – FCPX, Premiere
https://vimeo.com/channels/1322525
Managing Partner, Low Country Creative LLC
Professor, VCU Brandcenter

[Oliver Peters]

I think the important takeaway is that the statement in the showreel is somewhat serious, somewhat tongue-in-cheek. This is one of the most artistic showreels out there and all from bill-paying work. So, in fact, art DOES pay, in some cases.

– Oliver

Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com

[Bill Davis]

Interesting.

Bob’s swatted at me, by name, maybe half a dozen times here.

I do the same thing once – and it’s of concern?
Sorry, not interested in tilted playing fields.
If it’s kosher for him to call me out for a posted opinion – it’s should be the same in return.

He’s a big boy. He can certainly take the at least the same level of criticism he’s been willing to dish out. That’s how this forum has always operated.

Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
The shortest path to FCP X mastery.

[Jeremy Garchow]

Mark Toia’s teacher told him that art doesn’t pay. “Forget about this art crap. Get a real job.”

Mark Toia proved his teacher wrong.

I am glad that there are teachers out there working towards excellence, but this is not that story.

This is a great piece. I am excited about this series.

[Shane Ross]

I read something on a friend’s Facebook feed once that said “You don’t think art is essential? You don’t want to fund the arts in public schools? You think an art degree is useless? OK… for one week don’t watch TV, listen to music, look at any advertising, use any interesting looking furniture…use only white plates, clear glasses. Wear only plain t-shirts and skirts or pants….don’t read any books, magazines…don’t listen to podcasts, audiobooks. Imagine all products in stores labeled with plain white labels. ALL of that is art.”

Writing
Drawing
Photography
Storytelling
Clothing design
Product design

It’s everywhere…it’s ALL art. Sure, a lot of it is commercial, but it’s art. Many computer designs are art…the iMac for one.

Shane
Little Frog Post
Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

[Shane Ross]

OH…here…I found the actual post.

Shane
Little Frog Post
Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

[Shawn Miller]

I think people who say things like this (you should have gone into tech, or whatever) fail to realize that a large part of the technology landscape is driven by art and design. Design driven user experience and design thinking aren’t seen as trends in technology, they’re seen as vital tools that help drive innovation. In fact, I can’t think of any large technology companies that haven’t bought at least one design firm in the past five years. The most recent example that comes to mind is Accenture’s acquisition of Mackevision.

https://venturebeat.com/2018/01/16/why-accenture-moved-into-3d-visualization-production-by-acquiring-mackevision/

Shawn

[Greg Janza]

[Bill Davis] “Bob’s swatted at me, by name, maybe half a dozen times here.

I do the same thing once – and it’s of concern?”

In fairness to Bob, that Woody Allen joke is legendary and it’s hilarious.

Bill, if you’ve been in the video business for 30 years you should have a skin as thick as an alligator by now.

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