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  • Are scale changes intelligently combined when AE renders?

    Posted by Mike Cantor on June 4, 2012 at 5:38 pm

    Will there be a difference in the final render between the following three cases, all of which have the total impact of scaling a piece of footage by 225%.

    Case 1: A piece of footage is set to scale = 225%

    Case 2: A piece of footage is set to scale = 150% and parented by a layer that scales at 150%

    Case 3: Comp A contains a piece of footage scaled at 150%. Comp A is nested within Comp B, wherein it is scaled at 150%.

    Thanks for any info you can offer on this.
    -Mike

    Mike Cantor replied 13 years, 11 months ago 2 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Mike Cantor

    June 4, 2012 at 6:43 pm

    Thanks Dave!

    My question was more about the render result, not the time of rendering. Here is my I actual issue

    I have a comp (call it “CompA”) at 720 that contains footage that is scaled down to about 25%, which has a million tiny adjustments in the form of position changes, paint corrections, etc.

    I want to recreate this comp at 1080. Of course the easiest thing to do would be to drop CompA into another comp and scale it up. But will I lose resolution this way? If the rendering engine sees footage that is scaled to 25% in one comp and then rescaled by %150 when that comp is nested in another comp, is it smart enough to do one scaling operation, or will do the 25% scale first (losing all that resolution) and then do the second scale?

    Thats really the question I am asking for each of those three scenarios.

    -mike

  • Mike Cantor

    June 4, 2012 at 8:11 pm

    Thanks again, Dave. What would you suggest as search terms to look it up by?

    -mc

  • Roland R. kahlenberg

    June 5, 2012 at 12:39 am

    [mike cantor] “I want to recreate this comp at 1080. Of course the easiest thing to do would be to drop CompA into another comp and scale it up. But will I lose resolution this way?”

    Collapse Transformations is the AE feature you will want to look into – it should help under the conditions you’ve mentioned, ie concatenate transformations across more than one comp into a single execution. There are write-ups and tutorials at the COW on the subject.

    As for the script that Dave alluded to, it’s called ScaleComposition.jsx. You can access if via File>Scripts>ScaleComposition.jsx. Then set the appropriate value for the new comp. It’s useful/important that you make a backup of the 720 comp so that you have access to the original.

    HTH
    RoRK

    Intensive AE & Mocha Training in Singapore and Malaysia
    Adobe ACE/ACI (version 7) & Imagineer Systems Inc Approved Mocha Trainer

  • Mike Cantor

    June 5, 2012 at 2:15 am

    Thanks so much! I’ll take a look at both of those options. FYI I found a script that scale recursively. Don’t know how well it works.

    https://aescripts.com/recursive-scale-comp/

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