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  • Applying a 3:2 pulldown

    Posted by Kenny Powerass on July 17, 2006 at 8:20 pm

    Between FCP and Cinema Tools documentation AND the similar discussion that started yesterday I still can’t make heads or tails of this:
    I cut a two hour sequence of NTSC anamorphic footage. My client has asked that I apply a 3:2 pulldown to the entire sequence before putting it on a DVD. This is a first for me.
    Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe I want to go out of Final Cut to Cinema Tools, convert the footage to 23.98 fps, export it to Compressor and finally to DVDSP.
    If I’m not wrong, how do I do it? I’ve poked through a few manuals and played with a few different approaches and all I’ve come up with is a dull headache.
    If anyone who’s done this before could give me some ideas I’d be ecstatic.
    Thanks!
    Kenny

    Gary Adcock replied 19 years, 9 months ago 3 Members · 3 Replies
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  • John Pale

    July 17, 2006 at 8:59 pm

    Stop now…dont go any further.

    Was this project shot 24p? If not, then Cinema Tools will not be of any use.

    Is your client just looking for a filmlook treatment, that simulates the 24p look.

    If that is the case, then look no further than here

    https://nattress.com/Products/filmeffects/filmeffects.htm

  • Kenny Powerass

    July 17, 2006 at 9:15 pm

    No, it was not shot 24p. It’s at 29.97 fps.
    I believe the goal is a film look. (Unfortunately, I got the client’s instructions through a co-worker so the details aren’t totally clear.)
    Of course I wanted to look into giving them exactly what they asked for (the 3:2 pulldown) before resorting to a film-look filter.
    I have a number of tricks up my sleeve to achieve a film-look. I don’t own the Nattress filters, but have seen them. I didn’t realize they were so affordable. I may just pick them up anyway.

    But what can be done, pulldown-wise, to something shot 30 fps to make it more filmy? Is that not what reverse telecine does?
    I’d like to know this is impossible before I give the client an alternative to what he specifically asked for.

    Thanks,
    Kenny

  • Gary Adcock

    July 17, 2006 at 9:28 pm

    [Kenny Powerass] “No, it was not shot 24p. It’s at 29.97 fps.”

    Kenny –
    3:2 pulldown refers to the process of adding in duplicate frames to make 24 frame content play properly on an NTSC display. NTSC by default is 29.97 so if it was shot as video there is not pulldown.

    for a “film look” I too recommend the nattress plug-in’s

    Your only other option would be passing the video thru a post production process to accomplish the same effect – if you want to scare the client away from this send them to https://www.filmlook.com/ and let them realize that the process can be very very costly. ($500+ an hour)

    FYI “film look” is a registered trademark

    gary adcock
    Studio37
    HD & Film Consultation
    Post and Production Workflows
    Chicago, IL

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