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apple’s response to David Pogue
https://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/06/23/professional-video-editors-weigh-in-on-final-cut-pro-x/
as a well known Apple shill, Pogue was able to ask some “tough questions”. turns out everybody is wrong!
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It really is a neat program, You do have to get out of your mind set to wrap your head around it. But My company has tried for 3 days to get it to read a Video signal from a external deck, and we can’t,even with black magic cards (we got it to read firewire 800 though HDV deck) . Witch is a bummer. I personally don’t care for the “Event” organization, similar to Iphoto and iMovie. But thats just me. This guy has answers….but they don’t make sense why cant you save as? why do you to Duplicate project? (witch Btw takes ALL the Media from the current project and Copy it to the new place to duplicate the project to anyway I digress. the main point is its Easier for a person who knows little about editing to jump in and use it, People like me who want more control just dont get it in x-FCP. Feels like the program is on Auto[pilot. But it really is a neat program, it just doesn’t meet any of my needs at this point in time.
-Greg
I wear many hats.
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I love how he buries the most important screw-up half way into the article…
“Complaint: Can’t import old FCP files.
Answer: As I noted in my column, this is true; your old projects are stranded forever in the older FCP program. You’ll have to keep both programs on your hard drive, and edit the old projects in the old program. When you install the new FCP, your old copy is safely preserved.”
I’m sorry, but this is the biggest deal breaker of them all. After trying Walter Biscardi’s tutorial of opening old FCP7 files in PPro (it works!) I’m seriously thinking of getting my shop to switch. I have projects that I have to work on that are two,….three…..four years after the initial project. What are they thinking?!?!
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[Miles Heckendorn] “I have projects that I have to work on that are two,….three…..four years after the initial project. What are they thinking?!?!”
That you’d prefer to work with those projects as you left them in FCP 7, instead of having them imported with a bunch of screwy changes into FCP X. Which would be inevitable almost regardless of how much effort Apple put into opening old projects, given the differences in the way the timeline works and all the rendering differences that would exist because of the new rendering engine.
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[Chris Kenny] “That you’d prefer to work with those projects as you left them in FCP 7”
And yet, they’re not going to continue to support FCP 7, or provide access to the updates to FCP 7 in case you need to reinstall. So you’re somehow supposed to use projects from years gone by with a piece of software that is not supported. We have about 16 terabytes of archives on LTO tapes, and sometimes go back 3-4 years to update projects. Do you think, if Apple is already abandoning FCP 7 as they have, that they will continue to keep FCP 7 alive when they update the OS, so that I can access those projects? If you do, then your faith and blind support of Apple knows no bounds.
A migration path for old projects, even if it’s one sequence at a time, is not something that couldn’t be figured out if Apple wanted to do so. If Automatic Duck can export an XML from FCP X, then FCP X can import an XML. If it can import an XML, it should be able to import one from a previous project. The lack of any stated plan for migration of old projects IS a big deal, and at least on this one point you should really stop defending Apple.
Joe Murray
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it’s worrisome that they’ve stopped supporting 7 for sure, but what’s really scary is the thought that they make do something to break 7. I’m really hesitant to install Lion now. Am i just being paranoid?
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[Jim Sprague] “… what’s really scary is the thought that they make do something to break 7. I’m really hesitant to install Lion now. Am i just being paranoid?”
I don’t think you’re being paranoid at all. It’s not unusual for new versions of operating systems to not support, or not fully support, applications, device drivers, plug-ins, file formats and so forth — or some combination of these.
Chances are one or more of these things will “break” under a new OS.
Specifically given the situation of Apple killing FCP-7 immediately before release of a new OS certainly elevates this issue (these possibilities) to the level of rational thought, not paranoia.
Hey, a FCP-7 configuration (inluding the app, drivers, plug ins, file formats, etc.) might run just fine under Lion — we’ll know soon enough — but I have my doubts, and I wouldn’t bet the farm on it.
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with this whole fiasco, apple will be lucky if I even install lion.
maybe just shrink wrap the 8core, as to protect the 8 years
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Instead of investing in Automtic duck omf export for FCPX, I will invest the same money in the Automatic Duck plug in to transfer all my FCP7 projects to Avid or Premiere!
We are editing concerts, mostly shot with 15 to 20 cams and recorded on AJA Kipro, so directly in Prores HQ for a direct use in FCP. What i will do now with 80h in QT after each show if i can’t edit a multicam in FCPX? It will take days to import them in Avid for a multicam editing. I have the feeling that Apple betrayed us. We have invested a LOT of money in our workflow, with Kipro, SAN and FCP editing stations. What are we gonna do if we need to add one more FCP7 on the SAN if we can’t buy licence anymore? We will have no other choice that using serials we didn’t bought…
Premiere is certainely the easiest and cheapest way to go on to work with the same workflow. I just don’t know any editor on Premiere because nobody’s using it here (i am in France). I know a lot of editors on Avid but it doesn’t fit our workflow.And for the corporate clients we have since years and are updating their movies every year, what i am gonna say to them? Sorry, Apple has decided that the memory of your company doesn’t worth to be used anymore? Look forward and restart from scratch?
My father may be doesn’t need XML or OMF export nor multicam to edit his vacation movies but for us who are living with producing movies and editing, we NEED all that they have removed from the previous version.
ps: sorry for my english, i am better in french 😉
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If they thought it was important they would have worked it out. To say they couldn’t do it is ridiculous. To say they wouldn’t do it because it wasn’t worth their effort is another. The fact that that they didn’t believe it was worth doing tells you everything you need to know about how they want to position this product and what they think of their legacy users.
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[Herb Sevush] “If they thought it was important they would have worked it out. To say they couldn’t do it is ridiculous.”
It’s not especially ridiculous when you consider the differences in timeline behavior. And “If they thought it was important they would have worked it out” shows no understanding of the complexities of actual software development. A major product like this, especially an initial version, pretty much always ships while there’s still a long list of things the developers really wished they’d had time for.
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