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  • Richard Cardonna

    January 24, 2012 at 11:00 am

    In this contry corporations have aquired personhood in al legal aspects. So why not measure them with the same rod as that real persons are. The Idea that corporation are just here to make is just meme that we all have beliv.

    RC

  • Chris Jacek

    January 24, 2012 at 11:56 am

    Thanks for posting the original article. It’s a fascinating read, and shows how much trouble we are in as an economy. You cannot compete with government/corporate mandated factories with dorms and an 24/7 staff. Of course, there are U.S. politicians who think we should do exactly that. They think we should get rid of minimum wage laws and build similar factories here, which are really just glorified work-camps. Their jobs plan is a race to the bottom.

    This problem will not end until we go back to the tariff system that made us so prosperous in the mid-20th century. This was Alexander Hamilton’s plan, and it worked well. To see a successful example of this, just look at Brazil.

    Professor, Producer, Editor
    and former Apple Employee

  • Michael Gissing

    January 24, 2012 at 12:48 pm

    Not sure how a tariff system can help. In the modern world, any tariff can be matched by trading countries. Lots of free trade agreements have been pushed onto other countries by the USA with the express intent of preventing retaliatory tariffs. Those treaties are legally binding so reintroducing tariffs can be challenge by other countries in US courts.

    The fundamental problem is the US dollar is hopelessly overvalued because the huge US debt is in US dollars so the lenders like China make sure their currency doesn’t go up compared to the US, otherwise the value of the debt drops.

    Historically bankrupt countries devalue which restores competitiveness. So Apple can only make these huge profits because the real value of the US dollar is totally artificial compared to the cost of Chinese labour under the Chinese controlled Yuan undervaluing.

  • Rafael Amador

    January 24, 2012 at 1:58 pm

    But these companies don’t only need to manufacture in China (or wherever) to make those huge benefits, they also need those markets. Apple makes more money abroad that at home.
    The problem is when economy is based in consumption. The economic crisis are unavoidable when the level of consumption are unsustainable.
    When I was a kid my country was poor and we were tough to save, then when things improved we where told to spend. Now we have a more than a 25% of people jobless.
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Joseph W. bourke

    January 24, 2012 at 2:30 pm

    Wow, Craig – you’ve got me on the wrong side of the fence. I came up in the sixties – I’ll be one of the guys behind the barricades, helping to bring the system down. I hope you’ll join me.

    Joe Bourke
    Owner/Creative Director
    Bourke Media
    http://www.bourkemedia.com

  • Craig Seeman

    January 24, 2012 at 3:09 pm

    [Joseph W. Bourke] “Wow, Craig – you’ve got me on the wrong side of the fence. I came up in the sixties – I’ll be one of the guys behind the barricades, helping to bring the system down. I hope you’ll join me.”

    Politics and video. My favorite subjects. There are many ways to express radical electoral politics. Have you looked at some of Bill Hillsman’s work (NorthWoods Advertising)?

  • Thomas Frank

    January 24, 2012 at 3:35 pm

    Corporations and the customers are guilty!
    Should stop buying Apple products… but why should you right its the Company fault that we are given in.
    The same with Oil, I like to know who here in States turns off there car at a red light or doesn’t let there super V8 SUV run in the winter time.

    Yeah exactly, everybody complains but don’t want too give up there way of live.
    Do seem research on energy consumption for the internet…

  • Thomas Frank

    January 24, 2012 at 3:48 pm

    For the economy fix, there is a easy fix to do this first buy everything locally!
    Stop buying overseas Fruit in the Wintertime that don’t grow here in the states on the second benefit you lower energy consumption. Good deal right?
    Some people just might have to take the bullet and work at lower cost Job to take and bring back to the community or in this case country.
    The best one is vote for the right guy, the problem I see in that is well where the HELL is that guy!!

  • Richard Cardonna

    January 24, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    The image of the chinese workers being awaken in corporate dorms then walking to their working spots has and eire 1984 orwellian tinge.
    Kind of makes me remember a tv commeercial I saw back in 1984.

    I am sure that most corporations anywhere in the world kinda of like the combination of dictatorship and free reign capitalim. It makes it a lot easier for them and greatly increeases the bottom line.

    RC

  • Joseph W. bourke

    January 24, 2012 at 5:14 pm

    I’d never seen any of Bill Hillsman’s work – great messages – I probably didn’t see them because there wasn’t enough PAC money to air them properly. I like his approach.

    Joe Bourke
    Owner/Creative Director
    Bourke Media
    http://www.bourkemedia.com

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