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  • Walter Biscardi

    April 29, 2005 at 11:53 pm

    [ange] “true you are correct, but a lot of people thought that if you were using FCP HD, your QT pro # would work for the QT7pro version at least in FCP HD.”

    Those who have been following the Quicktime 7 threads on this forum KNOW that the QT Pro # will not transfer from QT 6 to QT 7 so I’m not sure why you’re so surprised. And you’re getting all bent out of shape over $30? Please, I do cartwheels everytime I upgrade something in my shop for less than $1,000.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Creative Genius, Biscardi Creative Media
    https://www.biscardicreative.com

    Now in Production, “The Rough Cut,” https://www.theroughcutmovie.com

    “I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters

  • Walter Biscardi

    April 30, 2005 at 1:26 pm

    [ange] “we have FCP support 24/7/365 and i said hey i have tiger here but it only has QT7, not the pro version and FCP likes the pro version. “

    No, FCP doesn’t “like” the pro version, it just needs Quicktime installed to run. You get all teh “pro” features of Quicktime via FCP. YOU like the pro version, not FCP.

    FYI, I paid the $29.99 today even though I have two full FCP Suites coming next month and am having fun testing out the H.264 codec for my website movies.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Creative Genius, Biscardi Creative Media
    https://www.biscardicreative.com

    Now in Production, “The Rough Cut,” https://www.theroughcutmovie.com

    “I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters

  • Martin Baker

    April 30, 2005 at 1:44 pm

    Some facts…The QTPro key has NO effect whatsoever on FCP. With QT7 installed you will be able to export to H264 from FCP WITHOUT having to spend the $30.

    The QT Pro key ONLY affects QuickTIme Player’s features, not any other app on your system.

    Martin
    Digital Heaven, London UK
    ________________________________________
    Ten Final Cut Plug-ins for just $10 each

  • Mutant0

    April 30, 2005 at 7:23 pm

    I think Apple HAS TO CHARGE due to licensing issues. If you want to write out a check for h.264 encoding licensing, Sorensen, and about 6 others (at a guess), then be my guest. I have used an MPEG 4 optimized codec in the past (called 3ivx), and I had to pay $90 for the encoder and $7 for each playback machine. If Apple “bundled” in the h.264 encoding with every Mac (buried the cost) and made the whole thing automatic, then that would raise the price of every Mac by almost $30 because the licensing would assume that everyone was encoding.

    This is not a FACT, but it is an educated guess.

    And I would have to say that QT 7 could not be worse than QT 6.5. All the codecs are supported and there are massive architectural improvements underneath. There might be a few bugs that have to be worked out over time because of that–so if quality is lost or performance lessened, it is not inherent to QT 7 but a bug that needs addressing. So if that is essential, you probably should wait for the dust to settle.

    There are posts that reference you can copy back the QT 6.5 player over the QT 7 player and get the save and encode functionality back (but not h.264) — I don’t know for sure.

    But since everyone, of course, will be getting the FCP 5 Suite–what is the issue? If you aren’t getting the new suite, then you don’t really care about what you are doing (OK, I’m kidding, many pros will have to wait to make sure their projects will transition and things are stable). But really, if you are making money, you can’t just jump in–and if you do go to FCP 5 suite you will get it anyway. And if you get FCP 5, you’ll want/need Tiger and you’ll need QT 7. It is the cost of business.

    But the value is there. And the money probably goes to licensing and saves you from headaches. Microsoft doesn’t do this, because they are too big to sue, so everyone assumes that the encoding is for personal use only and not going out on a P2P network (right!).

  • Oliver Peters

    April 30, 2005 at 9:34 pm

    [Uwe] “AVID will charge you a Digi I/O box for thousands of dollars to digitize 8 channel audio. “

    Uwe,

    That’s a bit misleading. The multichannel audio features of QT7 and FCP5 only mean that it will write a file with multiple channel of audio. It DOES NOT provide actual hardware I/O for multiple audio channels as the Digi box would. You still have to have something like AJA’s Kona2 or Io to get these audio channels actually into your system.

    Sincerely,
    Oliver

    Oliver Peters
    Post-Production & Interactive Media
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Martin Baker

    May 1, 2005 at 8:03 am

    But…you don’t need a QT Pro key to export H.264 movies from iMovie or use H.264 in iChat…and they all use the QuickTime encoder.

    As the Ars Technica review says, nothing causes more confusion than the QTPro thing, Apple really should drop it and include it in the OS as standard IMHO.

    Martin
    Digital Heaven, London UK
    ________________________________________
    Ten Final Cut Plug-ins for just $10 each

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