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  • Apple ProRes to Flash: best workflow

    Posted by Alessio Gemma on November 26, 2007 at 12:20 pm

    Hello,
    I need to obtain a flash movie (flv file) from a clip exported directly from the timeline (using Media 100 or FCP).
    The exported clip is a PAL 720×576 @25fps encoded with Apple ProRes 422 codec.
    My target is a 480×384 FLV with a maximum bitrate of 1,2 Mbps.
    I used Apple Compressor, using QuickTime Components (I think that Flash Exporter was added in QuickTime with the installation of Adobe Flash CS3 Encoder):
    -1200 Kbps as maximum datarate

    Daniel Low replied 18 years, 6 months ago 2 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Daniel Low

    November 27, 2007 at 4:46 pm

    Where did you get 480×384? It’s neither 4:3 or 16:9.
    Why no deinterlace? Was it shot progressive?

    If it wasn’t shot progressive then you really should deinterlace.
    480×384 will distort the picture – try 448×336 (ideal) or 480×360

  • Alessio Gemma

    November 28, 2007 at 2:52 am

    Thanks Danny for your reply.
    Well, I start from a timeline, PAL CCIR 601 720×576 25fps 4:3 and I export in a self-contained movie with Apple ProRes 422 HQ codec.
    Then I add the exported clip in the Flash 8 Encoder and I apply the settings I wrote in the first post.
    Well, I used 480×384 because I need a width of 480px to perfectly fit a dedicated space in a web space: when I reduce from 720 to 480 (and the “mantain aspect ratio” box is checked) it automatically set the height to 384px….
    I set a bitrate of 800Kbps and a keyframe every 12 frame (the clip has very fast changements).. but I obtain an awful clip!! Instead, doing the same with H.264 encoder, I obtain a very good clip.
    This’s the issue…
    Regards,
    Alessio

  • Daniel Low

    November 28, 2007 at 7:48 am

    Try the settings I first gave:

    720×576 is non-square pixel material. Flash is always square pixel so if you need 480 wide Flash then the output should be 480×360 (480/1.33 = 360).

    PAL is normally interlaced, so deinterlace for the output.

    Try a less frequent keyframe setting – too many keyframes can hurt quality sometimes.

    Make sure you are using the VP6 codec

  • Alessio Gemma

    December 3, 2007 at 11:31 am

    Ok, I tried your settings and.. wow! It works!
    You were right, now the quality of the FLV clips it’s very good.
    Just one thing: I saw th “encode alpha channel” option in the Flash 8 compressor video settings.
    I know that you use alpha channel in a video clip when the colour depth is 32bit.. so, when I have to check/uncheck it?
    Anyway, I really thank you Danny.
    Best regards,
    Alessio

  • Daniel Low

    December 3, 2007 at 11:45 am

    Ok, I tried your settings and.. wow! It works!

    Phew, at least my job is safe, for a while! 😉

    You do not need to encode the alpha channel, so uncheck the box.

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