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  • Apple progress FCP X, Anything to report?

    Posted by John Doggett-williams on September 1, 2011 at 2:13 am

    I held off upgrading my gear until the release of FCP X, what a mess, I can’t hold off much longer or the equipment allocation will be snapped up by other priorities. My question is; do I burn the FCP bridge and cross over to AVID Premiere Pro? And is it true Apple announced all FCP development will be aimed at the IPad?

    John doggett-williams

    Craig Seeman replied 14 years, 8 months ago 7 Members · 25 Replies
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  • Marvin Holdman

    September 1, 2011 at 4:31 am

    No updates released.

    In their FAQ, they said that they would be relying on 3rd party vendors to restore functionality. As of now, they still haven’t released the API’s except to a very few 3rd party vendors due to the fact that it’s “buggy”. If you’ve got to make a move anytime in the near future, I’m afraid it’s going to have to be away from this mess. Good luck.

    Marvin Holdman
    Production Manager
    Tourist Network
    8317 Front Beach Rd, Suite 23
    Panama City Beach, Fl
    phone 850-234-2773 ext. 128
    cell 850-585-9667
    skype username – vidmarv

  • Craig Seeman

    September 1, 2011 at 4:56 am
  • John Doggett-williams

    September 1, 2011 at 6:00 am

    Thanks, Apple doesn’t come out of this looking particularly respectful to a large and loyal community.
    I’m sure many will think that’s a too polite understatement.

    John doggett-williams

  • Marvin Holdman

    September 1, 2011 at 1:58 pm

    Hah! Ask Andreas, I’m sure he’d say you were quite a diplomat.

    Marvin Holdman
    Production Manager
    Tourist Network
    8317 Front Beach Rd, Suite 23
    Panama City Beach, Fl
    phone 850-234-2773 ext. 128
    cell 850-585-9667
    skype username – vidmarv

  • Marvin Holdman

    September 1, 2011 at 2:03 pm

    In all fairness…

    The OFFICIAL last day of summer is September 22.

    Marvin Holdman
    Production Manager
    Tourist Network
    8317 Front Beach Rd, Suite 23
    Panama City Beach, Fl
    phone 850-234-2773 ext. 128
    cell 850-585-9667
    skype username – vidmarv

  • Craig Seeman

    September 1, 2011 at 2:06 pm

    Keep in mind Apple is a business and they may well have assessed what the lose and what they will gain in the long run by making the changes they did. Of course the assessment may be wrong. They certainly have been blunt in the FAQ and London meeting. They’ve been quite clear what will/won’t be coming. Apple all has a very good history in understanding UI. They’re not going to reveal their long range vision overtly but I’m sure the vision is there and I’m sure their goal is get people to spend money on Macs and I think FCPX is being designed to do that. They are no more nor less “respectful” then any other business. I’ve seen every major NLE maker do things that some would consider “not respectful” of a base of users. Just because Apple is the most recent doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened before and won’t happen again by another company.

  • Craig Seeman

    September 1, 2011 at 2:08 pm

    [Marvin Holdman] “In all fairness…

    The OFFICIAL last day of summer is September 22.”

    And these kinds of dates are typical when developers use seasonal terms like “summer.” One might also consider that if they are making changes vs the response from users that the date may have been moved from earlier to later in the summer.

  • Herb Sevush

    September 1, 2011 at 2:59 pm

    “They are no more nor less “respectful” then any other business. I’ve seen every major NLE maker do things that some would consider “not respectful” of a base of users. Just because Apple is the most recent doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened before and won’t happen again by another company.”

    And one would hope that you bitched and complained every time it happened in the past, and will continue to do so when it happens in the future.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions

  • Craig Seeman

    September 1, 2011 at 3:17 pm

    I complained rather loudly when Avid announced they were dropping Mac support around 2000. I didn’t call them repeatedly though. They did listen.

    I complained to Adobe when Premiere Pro was released and there was no Mac version because I was considering alternatives to FCP. At the time they showed no interest but some years later that changed. I didn’t call them repeatedly though.

    I’m sure Apple is listening too. I don’t doubt they will implement changes but it may not be in the form some people want.

    One could argue that Avid has been slow to respond to requests for more third party video i/o support for example.

    I know people who were livid when Discreet dropped Edit* (I wasn’t an Edit* user but I worked with people who were) and they did not listen. They also abandoned Cleaner and Combustion.

    Some were livid when Matrox didn’t/couldn’t update the card they had for FCX many years back (in the move from OS9 to OSX I believe). In recent years they’ve come out with things like the MXO, MXO2, Max but it did require people to invest in new boxes.

    I can go on but companies are always faced with these business decisions when there are changes in the market. That means they see the “voice” attached to the $.

    Complaints should have as the objective to influence the developer. There’s no point to shouting at the ground.

  • Herb Sevush

    September 1, 2011 at 3:28 pm

    “I know people who were livid when Discreet dropped Edit* (I wasn’t an Edit* user but I worked with people who were) and they did not listen. They also abandoned Cleaner and Combustion.”

    I was one of those people, and livid didn’t really cover it. My feelings about Apple are positively congenial compared to my loathing for Autodesk / Discreet.

    However the notion that “they all do it” is not an excuse for Apple doing it too. Money is truly the only voice to be listened to in the corporate world, and it is only by threatening to take yours away, and more importantly, to convince others to do the same, that you can get your viewpoints respected.

    Complaining is a necessary, but not always sufficient, remedy. Better that than BOGU (my new favorite acronym.)

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions

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