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  • Mitch Ives

    December 2, 2011 at 3:03 pm

    [Andrew Richards] “I still like Philip Hodgetts’ hypothesis, that FCP7 was going to be the 64-bit FCP, but that had to be scrapped when Apple did a 180 on 64-bit Carbon back in 2007 prior to releasing Leopard. “

    I’ve thought that all along. The abrupt canceling of 64 bit Carbon caught Adobe by surprise and resulted in a long delay before 64 bit CS finally arrived on the Mac… after Adobe had to start over and redo everything in Cocoa. Given Apple’s secretive approach and lack of communication, it isn’t hard to see the FCP team (a small and largely ignored group) getting caught in the same way.

    When this announcement was made, I predicted that this was going to delay any meaningful updates to FCP. I sure would have liked to have been wrong on that one…

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  • Marvin Holdman

    December 2, 2011 at 4:04 pm

    [Bill Davis] – “But awareness of any issue is the first step to improvement, I suppose.”

    Oh Irony…. you are a cruel mistress.

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  • Aindreas Gallagher

    December 2, 2011 at 4:52 pm

    also, for anyone who doesn’t get the rodney dangerfield reference – why haven’t you watched Caddyshack? Is there something wrong with you?

    here then is an actor dramatising Bill, invigorated by FCPX POWER, in a confrontation with horrible snooty professional editors, those meanies who have always looked down on him – here, he gatecrashes one of the dinner dances at the “Exclusive Editors Country Club Set Club House Of Exclusive Editing and Dining For Exclusive Gilded Editors – Home Produced Vet Ads and The Lower Orders Need Not Apply”

    here is a short excerpt.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dgxzItaQzw&feature=related

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  • Bill Davis

    December 2, 2011 at 5:59 pm

    [Aindreas Gallagher] “here then is an actor dramatising Bill, invigorated by FCPX POWER, in a confrontation with horrible snooty professional editors, those meanies who have always looked down on him – here, he gatecrashes one of the dinner dances at the “Exclusive Editors Country Club Set Club House Of Exclusive Editing and Dining For Exclusive Gilded Editors – Home Produced Vet Ads and The Lower Orders Need Not Apply””

    I always know I’m on the right track with an argument when someone responds with the “classic video clip” gambit.

    After all, personal mockery is pretty much the classic fallback position when a person starts to figure out they have a really bad argument.

    I actually would have gone with the Ted Knight character, rather than Dangerfield – probably because while each are accomplished at levels nobody here is likely to ever attain, Dangerfield was vastly more charming in his role than Knight was in his.

    But whatever.

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  • Aindreas Gallagher

    December 2, 2011 at 6:02 pm

    come on bill.

    the editing country club set?

    seriously?

    I’m not mocking you – I’m ridiculing your position Bill.

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  • Walter Biscardi

    December 2, 2011 at 7:58 pm

    [Bill Davis] “The Cow’s own Richard Harrington was quoted in an Apple Insider story today indicating that…

    “There was a Final Cut Pro 8, and it was 64-bit and it was done,” Harrington said. “And they looked at it and said, ‘This is not what we want to do. This is evolutionary, this is not revolutionary.’ And they killed it.””

    Quote is out of context, there never was a Final Cut Pro 8. Development on Final Cut Pro X goes back a few years. A 64 bit version of what we know as Final Cut Pro 7 was never made.

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  • Ben Scott

    December 3, 2011 at 5:35 pm

    this whole forum back and forth is pretty unpleasant

    for those moaners get over it

    use the other software and stop wining about what you perceive you dont have any more

    for bill
    I agree with you on lots and think you have made a lot of valid point.
    I wouldnt even have engaged this idea of fcp8 (or rumour from someone).

    for Aindreas
    well done you proved yourself to be as unpleasant a character as ever

  • David Roth weiss

    December 3, 2011 at 8:46 pm

    [Ben Scott] “this whole forum back and forth is pretty unpleasant”

    Perhaps you missed the fact that this forum is about “the debate,” and back and forth is typically the nature of any debate. If you want everyone to agree with you, that’s simple, find a different forum. But, don’t demand that others do so.

    [Ben Scott] “for bill
    I agree with you on lots and think you have made a lot of valid point.”

    That’s no surprise, since you favor only those who agree with you and only see those points as having validity.

    [Ben Scott] “for Aindreas
    well done you proved yourself to be as unpleasant a character as ever”

    Disagreeing with you makes him an unpleasant character to you. Many of us actually find him very, very funny, and he certainly provides great counterpoint to Bill’s rhetoric, which is hilarious in its own way.

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  • Aindreas Gallagher

    December 4, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    ah come on Ben – this forum is, by name and definition, a debating forum. there should be nothing unpleasant or wrong about boisterous debate?

    It’s debate. there are rules, and if we do not adhere to them, I can really tell you that the cow will and does slap us down.

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