Apple bans any mention of FCPX Petition from Apple Discussion Boards

[Michael Hancock]

[Stevo Chang] “It looks like Apple wants no mention of the petition on their discussion boards. Could Apple view the petition as a potential legal document and threat? “

No. It violated their TOS. From their TOS:

“Do not post polls or petitions or links to same.”

There’s a lot to be upset about concerning Apple right now, but this is hardly one of them.

EDIT: Copied/pasted the wrong portion of their TOS. Fixed now.

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Michael Hancock
Editor

[Greg Burke]

I love how they worded there response to you. It reallys funny. Could you imagen apple talking to adobe this way.

Dear adobe,
Your Verison of photoshop is to complaticated and technical. And needs to be rewritten in a friendly UI and easy to learn.

Best Apple

Don’t mind me just venting

That is pretty bad though. You should be able to post your mind in a professinal manner. Witch you clearly did.

I wear many hats.
http://www.gregburkepost.com

[Aindreas Gallagher]

still. the optics aren’t great though are they? for a software launch fiasco in truly perilous PR waters, or, a “new coke debacle” as the huffington post puts it, trying to shut down debate on your boards seven days after the debate got going doesn’t really sound like the cleverest thing to me. It actually sounds like they’re handing the next headline over – “Under pressure from petition, Apple stifles user debate”.
Honest to god, I’m being vaguely agnostic here – it just sounds like a surprisingly stupid move.

http://www.ogallchoir.net
promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

[Craig Seeman]

[Greg Burke] “Could you imagen apple talking to adobe this way.”

Sure I can. Did yo follow the Apple vs Adobe Flash feud?

[Greg Burke] “Dear adobe,
Your Verison of photoshop is to complaticated and technical. And needs to be rewritten in a friendly UI and easy to learn.”

That’s positively kind compared to the way Apple disparaged flash . . . and Adobe’s responses. It reminded me of those old World Wresting Federation matches. I was practically expecting a tag team match with outfits and masks and trash talking.

[Mike Petty]

Are you kidding me?

Forget the whole FCP/FCPX situation…This is unbelievable.

You are publicly ripping Apple for their decision to pull your post and calling into question their motives for doing so? Under normal circumstances I would have no problem with that (even though the TOS is crystal clear).

But…I read your bio…YOU WORK FOR TBWA/CHIAT/DAY – APPLE’S AD AGENCY! Are you crazy?

Man I could do about an hour on the scope of your disloyalty to your employer and your client (Yeah that’s right…if Apple is your agency’s client then they are in fact your client, too)…but anybody on these boards who is in a client service business already knows what I would say.

And just for the record…Chiat/Day was my agency for five years. If I heard that one of their staff (I don’t care who or in what department) was ripping my brand in a public forum like this…I’d pick up the phone and you would be history so fast you could not clock it.

Apologies to the Cow community for this personal interjection

[Aindreas Gallagher]

hey – did you have to call him out that loudly? His position here as a fellow FCP user and his position with his company could have been two ships that passed in the night. A lot of people come on here to vent their frustration with this situation.

[Mike Petty] “but anybody on these boards who is in a client service business already knows what I would say.”

I can’t say I knew what you were going to say, but I would have guessed you were going to say it really really loudly. As a response to his post, I thought your hypothetical “I’d have you fired buddy – I’d ring them up right now” was overbearing and completely out of line on an FCP editors user discussion forum.

http://www.ogallchoir.net
promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

[Chris Harlan]

Seems to me that that’s his business, Babe. Not yours. Plus, loudly threatening to air-fire someone is pretty low. I hope you are just a little over-excited and this isn’t your normal MO.

[Mike Petty]

I have seen agencies lose accounts for sillier things than that and I have friends at that shop that could could suffer as a result…so yeah, I got a little torqued.

That notwithstanding appropriate forum and volume control concerns noted.

Just curious though…what would you do if you heard one of your employees was disparaging one on your biggest/best clients in public forum? Or if you saw that one of your vendor’s employees was disparaging your brand/company publicly?

Rhetorical question…let’s move on to the issues you point out are more germane to the forum.

[Chris Harlan]

I’ve seen the same things you’ve seen. What I would do with someone who works for me/under me/with me, depends entirely on the specific situation. What I wouldn’t do is make decisions about someone who does NOT work for me/under me/with me, and has no effect on me. I especially would not put online a detailed outline of how and why I think they should get fired. I don’t need to be hypothetical about that at all.

[Andrew Landini]

Mike-

If he were saying “most of us at [Apple vendor] believe so-and-so”, that would be a different story. He’s entitled to an individual opinion outside of work. You were the person who pointed out the connection, and if this were to gain press, it would probably be your fault. Oh, the irony.

Andrew