Anyone working in 10bit HD?

[Shane Ross]

DVCPRO HD is an 8-bit codec. For 10-bit you need ProRes or 10-bit Uncompressed.

I only work with DVCPRO HD natively. And the NEW series I am working on will be finished by another person at a post house (I’ll be creative cutting only), so I won’t get the chance unless I do it on my own.

Walter no doubt is. But again, PRORES, not DVCPRO HD.

Shane

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[Dan Nethery]

Your right, I wasn’t thinking when I posted this. I’m going to using AJA 1080i 10 Bit Uncompressed. Has anyone had any experience with this in FCP6 and Color yet?

[Gary Adcock]

Your right, I wasn’t thinking when I posted this. I’m going to using AJA 1080i 10 Bit Uncompressed. Has anyone had any experience with this in FCP6 and Color yet?

That would be me.

the best warning on Using Color would be to make sure you have the ATi1900XT card- it is 3-5x faster on the renders in Color.

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[Walter Biscardi]

[gary adcock] “the best warning on Using Color would be to make sure you have the ATi1900XT card- it is 3-5x faster on the renders in Color.”

Maybe for uncompressed, but we’re getting terrible render speeds using DVCPro HD. 4 – 6 hours for a single 22 minute episode. Definitely was not this slow when it was Final Touch HD.

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[Gary Adcock]

yes

that is a known issue with DVCPROHD material in color, there is a note in the apple KB DOCS

try rendering out to prores instead. I found that by not going back to DVCPROHD I was able to cut the render time in half.

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[Dan Nethery]

You guys are awesome on the info. thanx a million. I just moved from Avid Composer to FCP5. I’m editing in DVCPRO 50 for this edit season… 3 weeks left. Then on to finishing in HD. The one thing that I’m not happy about it the video quality isn’t there, in comparison to my Avid. My Avid is doing a 2:1 ratio. and the FCP with Kona3 is DVCPRO50 Highest Quality 8 bit. Am I missing something? should I have used 10bit? In a couple weeks I’ll test out the ProRess in FCP6 and compare it to my Avid.

Any thoughts?

[Shane Ross]

[Dannyboyfl] “My Avid is doing a 2:1 ratio. and the FCP with Kona3 is DVCPRO50 Highest Quality 8 bit. Am I missing something? should I have used 10bit?”

Again, DVCPRO 50 is an 8-bit codec. As is DV25 and DV/NTSC. Capturing DV50 via firewire is getting you all the quality you can get…pure data transfer.

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[Dan Nethery]

My Kona Card gives me the option of Digitizing it at 10 bit DVCPRO, and my original tape format is Digibeta SDI.

[Shane Ross]

Then there you go…that is the KONA codec…that is 10-bit. The NATIVE FIREWIRE codec is 8-bit.

That would be the way to go, IMHO.

Well, when you online.

Shane

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[Gary Adcock]

My Avid is doing a 2:1 ratio. and the FCP with Kona3 is DVCPRO50 Highest Quality 8 bit. Am I missing something? should I have used 10bit?

you have to think about compression differently with FCP you do not have the same options.

I am switching over to ProRes for my Day to day workflow in 10bit,think of ProRes the same as you would DNxHD the 2 codecs are more similar to each other than they are different.

This is all SD too, thought you asked about 10bit HD?

gary adcock
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