Anyone using Algolith’s AlgoSuite Plug-ins?

[Frank Hardie]

Have you tried Andrew Kramer’s preset?

Tutorial and .ffx file

I know it’s not the answer to your question (re: AlgoSuite), but it should do what you want to do.

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It’s a while since we’ve used them but when they do work they are definitely the best plugins for format/framerate/deinterlace/deartifact processing, I’ve been experimenting with everything available for years (Twixtor, Retimer, Kronos/Timewarp, Optical Flow) and Algolith is the best so far. I seem to remember a lot of crashes, for example each time I applied the effect to a layer, and those annoying popups about framerate and pixel aspect ratio having to match all the time get old pretty quick. When they do work it’s worth it though. Of course some framerate conversions are never going to work without leaving some kind of artifacts or cleanup.

What kind of errors are you having and what do you have to convert? I know we had trouble with the one-week mac license and they gave us a free week on the PC to make up for it, that was a couple of versions ago but they were decent on the phone/email.

Andrew Kramer’s preset it sweet but the quality of the results, especially if you have to deinterlace don’t compare with those of Algolith, (in no way is that Andrew’s fault, just different plugins) they have some great algorithms but are buggy. I used to always set it up with CAPS on, also never jump around the timeline as most of these plugins have caching problems. Another thing to remember is that resulting frames will look slightly different depending on where you start rendering as they progressively calculate the motion frame by frame (rendering in reverse will not produce matching frames with forward if you try to make a quick patch or add machines to your render, they are usually pretty close, just not exactly the same).

I also seem to remember the most stable version was on PC using image sequences instead of Quicktimes but now that I think of it that could have been Kronos and not Algolith.

I considered buying the standalone application, maybe it’s better? Has anyone used it?

Let us know how you get on with it, despite the hassle we might buy it soon.

Glennser

[Paul Carlin]

I would agree that the Algolith plug-ins are incredibly unstable. I feel like I’m walking on eggshells when working with them and constantly stressed that it will crash on me… again.

However, I too have experiemented with the numerous other techniques and rendered many tests to find out that Algolith’s frame rate conversion is the best, with the least amount of objectionable artifacts. You really need to play with the parameters though, which can be extremely painful given it’s nature to crash and long processing time.

I often re-launch AE, create only one project at a time and never move around the timeline. The pop-ups are extremely annoying and often wrong.

The problem I am having seems to be related to version 7 of AE where the SPEED of the timeline changes when this (and other similar) plug-ins are applied. This messes up the plug-in which expects a 100% speed clip. Why does AE Automatically (and silently) change a layers speed? Is there a way (Prefs file?) to disable this behaviour?

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[Paul Carlin] ”
The problem I am having seems to be related to version 7 of AE where the SPEED of the timeline changes when this (and other similar) plug-ins are applied. This messes up the plug-in which expects a 100% speed clip. Why does AE Automatically (and silently) change a layers speed? Is there a way (Prefs file?) to disable this behaviour?”

Please tell me more about this, is there any indicator that after effects is doing it? I always knew there was something strange going on but could never figure it out.

Glennser

[Anmol Mishra]

Hi Paul. Any chance that you are thinking of selling your Algosuite license ? Thanks!