any way to make FCP capture from USB2?

[Shane Ross]

Is this a hard drive camera? Or SD card camera? Because if you are recording onto tape, you can ONLY capture via firewire….not USB. If this is a tape based HDV camera, it will have a firewire connection. It might be called iLink or 3394.

Shane

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[Kevin Monahan]

USB cameras use USB to connect to drives, tape is ingested via Log and Transfer.
HDV cameras use FireWire cables to connect to drives, tape is ingested via Log and Capture.

Makes sense?

Kevin Monahan
http://www.fcpworld.com
Author – Motion Graphics and Effects in Final Cut Pro

[Alex Delvaux]

well, the camera we’re looking at here is the Canon VIXIA HF100. The spec sheet only lists “USB 2.0 Hi-Speed Terminal for digital video streaming and ultra-fast transfer of movies and photos.”

so is the answer simply that i cannot hope to use this camera as a capture deck on my Mac? or is there a way to trick FCP into capturing through USB? would a USB to Firewire adapter work/exist?

[Alex Delvaux]

wait, i think i just answered my own question. i missed that the camera wasn’t tape based cos the one i had been looking at was. ha! thanks for all the help guys!

[Kevin Monahan]

With that camera you ingest via USB 2.0, but you want those files living on a faster drive than a USB 2.0 drive or the Mac HD. FW800 would be a minimum for me.

Kevin Monahan
http://www.fcpworld.com
Author – Motion Graphics and Effects in Final Cut Pro

[Tutu Rurah]

hello shane
I’m new to this forum,
i have a panasonic hmc151 with usb 2.0 only, is the first time using a panasonic, (is the company I work for that bought this camera) on the other hand I’ve always worked with MAC, how do I get to transfer data from the sd card to FCP?

tuturura

[Jason Debon]

I know this thread is a little old, but it relates to a question I have about the trend for these HD cameras to have only USB connections. I’m wondering if the cameras can be used to monitor the output of the Final Cut Pro timeline on a television?

Currently I use a miniDV camera, by connecting the firewire cable from my mac into the miniDV camera, and then connecting the miniDV camera to a television via RCA cables I can view everything I do on my timeline on a television for quality controll. If I buy an HD camera that doesn’t have firewire connectivity, but only has USB, can I use it to do the same thing connecting to the camera via USB? Will FInal Cut know how to output the timeline via USB?

And just to make sure, it sounds like I definitely can use the USB to capture into Final Cut Pro, correct?

Thanks for any light you can shed on this subject.

J.

[Shane Ross]

[Jason Debon] “I know this thread is a little old”

Yeah, but everyone who replied still subscribes to it. And us leaders get ALL the posts.

[Jason Debon] “I’m wondering if the cameras can be used to monitor the output of the Final Cut Pro timeline on a television?”

Nope. Not even for DV. The only formats you can view on an external monitor via firewire are DV and DVCPRO HD. If you have a proper DV or DVCPRO HD device at the other end of that. This will not work at all over USB.

[Jason Debon] “If I buy an HD camera that doesn’t have firewire connectivity, but only has USB, can I use it to do the same thing connecting to the camera via USB? Will FInal Cut know how to output the timeline via USB?”

No, and no. FCP does not output via USB.

[Jason Debon] “And just to make sure, it sounds like I definitely can use the USB to capture into Final Cut Pro, correct?”

IMPORT…footage shot on HDD cameras or SD cards, yes. But not any tape format.

To view out, you need to look at Capture cards.

#25 HDV external Monitor Viewing

Shane’s Stock Answer #25 – HDV external Monitor Viewing

To view HDV on an external monitor in high definition you are going to need to purchase a capture card, like the ones Decklink (https://www.decklink.com) or AJA (https://www.aja.com) offer. They will both play out HDV in real time. The catch is that you cannot view this on a regular TV or NTSC monitor. Since this is HD, an HD monitor will be needed. HOWEVER, both cards are capable of down converting the signal so that it can be displayed on an SD monitor. This won’t be color accurate

HDV cannot be played out of FCP as HD via Firewire because it’s Long GOP structure is too taxing on your processors to spare the system resources needed to drive an external monitor.

The best option you have is the Matrox MXO…$1000. This coupled with an Apple 23″ display gets you color correction quality.

And there are the Decklink Intensity and Intensity PRO cards as well.

You can, however, view HDV out via firewire as DV…lowering the resolution to that of DV, but still viewable. This is not full quality nor should it be used to judge the quality of your footage or used to color correct to. This is just a way to view the footage on a large monitor.

Here are some examples of some of the possibilities:

– DV or HDV sequence output to an SDI signal on a third-party interface
– An uncompressed NTSC or PAL sequence output to a DV FireWire output
– An HDV sequence output to a DV FireWire output

Sequence and output formats must have compatible frame rates. For example,
sequences with a frame rate of 60, 30, or 24 fps can be output to a 30 fps device,
but not to a 25 or 50 fps device.

Shane

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[Jason Debon]

Thanks so much for all that info. Very helpful. I have a much better idea of the limitations of moving to HD now.

[Chris Martin]

I just found this post and I have a related question that I hope someone can help me with. We just purchased a Panasonic HDC-HS300, hard drive & SD card HD camcorder. For outputs it has HDMI, Compsite and USB, NO Firewire. We want to be able to to Log and Capture directly to our MAC Pro hard drive. Can I do this with the USB connection to Final Cut Express or Final Cut Pro? The Apple store told me that it was not possible with FCE and the USB but was not sure about Final Cut Pro. It that does not work can I do Log and Capture with a Blackmagic Intensisty Pro card. Is that my only option?