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  • any thoughts…will this work?

    Posted by Coach on November 25, 2005 at 3:22 pm

    Hello,

    I am about to shoot (in 2 weeks) an indoor (big field house) small group of 15 people with one presenter. Here is how I am planning the audio. The camera will be a Canon GL-1. I am going to purchase the Sennheiser Evolution G2 100 lav mic system for the presenter in the group. The rest of the group will be recorded as background using a Azden SGM-2X (which I own) as an omni mounted on the GL-1. Both inputs will be plugged into a Beachtek DXA-4P (soon to purchase) attached to the GL-1 also. I would record the audio at 12 H. as I will be editing in FCP 4.5. I am under the impression I will have 2 different tracks of audio using this sample rate and this equipment. I have never attempted an audio capture like this. I have only used 1 mic. Questions: will this work and am I correct in theory? Are the Beachtek and Sennheiser good pieces of equipment for this? Any thoughts or better ideas would be greatly appreciated and considered. I have about $800 to spend for some new audio if the equipment I have mentioned is not adequate and will it show up in FCP as seperate tracks of audio….Thanks much and I hope I explained it ok.

    Coach

    Gunleik Groven replied 20 years, 5 months ago 6 Members · 18 Replies
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  • David Jones

    November 25, 2005 at 11:02 pm

    “The rest of the group will be recorded as background using a Azden SGM-2X (which I own) as an omni mounted on the GL-1”

    The Azden SGM-2X is a shotgun, not an omni mic.

  • Coach

    November 26, 2005 at 12:11 am

    If you unscrew the long end exstension barrel it works as an omni.

    Coach

  • Ty Ford

    November 27, 2005 at 2:49 pm

    What’s 12H?

    Ty Ford

    Ty Ford’s “Audio Bootcamp Field Guide” was written for video people who want better audio. Find out more at https://www.tyford.com

  • Thaxter Clavemarlton

    November 27, 2005 at 4:55 pm

    [Ty Ford] “What’s 12H?”

    Sheesh, don’t you know?

    Its 3 different meetings of the 4H.

  • Ty Ford

    November 27, 2005 at 5:11 pm

    I’m a FFA man myself.

    🙂

    Ty

  • Coach

    November 27, 2005 at 7:47 pm

    It is 12 bit. I think you two are looking for the cowmedy lounge. I appreciate you noticing my typo, how about some input relating to the question posted…

    Coach

  • David Jones

    November 27, 2005 at 7:49 pm

    I’m not a big fan of Azden, but use what you must.

    For audio on the cheap, I think a better choice would be to use an Oktava MK 012 instead of the Azden.
    But which ever mic you choose, I would not camera mount it as you intend to do.

    Good Luck with your shoot!

  • David Jones

    November 27, 2005 at 7:52 pm

    By the way, if you are recording 2 channels of audio,
    you want to record in 16 bit, not 12 bit.

  • Coach

    November 27, 2005 at 9:14 pm

    David,

    Thanks for the input. So my audio will be recorded in two seperate mono (or will it stereo) tracks on my DV cassette. I am still unclear what it will look like when I bring it into FCP audio timeline. The two audio sources will be seperate from each other? Is that correct? I am trying to get a visual or an understanding to see if works like I think it will or should still purchase the lav mic setup. Thoughts….I know I am making this as clear as mud….

    Coach

  • Thaxter Clavemarlton

    November 28, 2005 at 3:03 am

    [coach] “So my audio will be recorded in two seperate mono (or will it stereo) tracks on my DV cassette.”

    There is physically no difference.

    A “stereo” track is, in its basic form, two mono tracks recorded and played at the same time.
    There are other factors that would make the audio “true stereo”, but the camcorder and FCP “don’t care” if you want “stereo” or “dual mono”.

    After capture to FCP (as long as you choose to capture both audio tacks) you are free to decide to individually adjust and mix each channel to either or BOTH tracks…

    Or… choose to make them a “stereo pair” that will play “split” left and right and be adjustable as a “pair”.

    But even a “stereo pair” shows up on the timeline as two audio tracks.

    Nad IMHO, if you don’t like a little humor injected into the discussion… you’re in for some serious problems in THIS business.

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