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Another FCP convert’s simple question…
Being another convert from FCP, there are still a few basic editing things I took for granted (having started on FCP v.6) that I can’t seem to figure out… While I’m sure most of it is just the change in converting from one NLE to another, I feel like I may just be missing something….
Ok, so here it is:
My usual workflow when doing some rough cuts is to put a bunch of clips on the timeline and scrub through it by dragging the playhead across the footage. I find the in point I want on a clip, use my keyboard shortcut to blade cut on the playhead, then select (with the mouse) the portion of the clip that I don’t want, and hit ripple delete.
In FCP, the clip would be deleted, and the playhead would jump back to the beginning of the clip that remained….At which point I would continue scrubbing through the footage that I hadn’t seen yet.
Premier seems to think that the playhead should stay where it was and only the clips would move….the problem with this is it’s now at a point that I haven’t seen everything leading up to it….ok…I guess I can get used to that….IF I could only jump back (or forward) to the edit point. Apparently there is NO way to do this????
I’ve found the keyboard shortcut that seems like it would be right (it says “go to next edit point”!) but, for the life of me, I can’t seem to make it work…..
This should be such a small thing, but the more I get into editing with Premier, the more frustrated I get with the way it cuts on the timeline….
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I hope that all makes sense… please feel free to tell me that I just need to change my mentality from FCP to Premier…..the problem could very well be that I just developed bad habits in my cutting style from the get go. But I really hope that not’s the case, and I’m just missing something very simple and basic.
Thanks!
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*I’m using CS5 on a Mac……in case that makes a difference
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Ok, I’m learning myself (also a recent FCP convert) using CS5 on a Mac Pro. The default short cuts for go to next edit/go to previous edit are the Page Up/Page Down. Did you try those?
You could also do a ripple edit slightly more quickly by holding down the command key while dragging the previous edit to the playhead ( or current time indicator in adobe speak). Saves having to blade all clips, select clip, and then hit shift-delete. I haven’t found a ripple-previous-edit-to-CTI shortcut yet.
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yeah…those are the defaults…. unfortunately I have the short bluetooth keyboard (stupid iMac!) that doesn’t come with all those fancy keys…. 🙂
That being said, I do know how to remap them to something that should work (i.e. shift+up/down….or just up/down). The problem is that, even after remapping the shortcut, it doesn’t actually move the playhead (or, as Adobe likes to call it, the CTI). The only thing that moves is the scroll bar on the timeline.
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Making the move from FCP to PP myself and have hit this same issue.
From what I can find it’s unfortunately not going to work like FCP. I’m ripple editing with the cmd+mouse method and then pressing page down to take the CTI back to where it should be.
I had the same issue as you and was banging my keyboard like a loon whilst nothing happened… until I found out…
… if you select the tracks (click just outside the left of the time line to grey out the track) you want the next/last edit point page up/page down thing to work on it works. Simple as that. Actually very clever as you don’t have to have tracks that you’re not interested in selected so it won’t jump to their edit points.
Still an extra key stroke, but a small price to pay for not having to deal with FCPX.
Any help?
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That is helpful…..I think I figured it out….at least, Premier’s way of doing it…..
If the timeline is the highlighted window, it doesn’t work…. If the Program or Source is the highlighted window, it does.
I guess this is just another one of the mentality changes I’ll have to make…Either that or develop a different workflow….
One way or the other, “everything just changed in post”……..woot
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[Michael Griggs] “”everything just changed in post””
..Apple just lost their pro customers?
This will probably be one of those things that will seem like second nature in a couple of weeks and we’ll wonder how we ever did it any other way.
BTW, I’ve just been cutting some interview rushes using the “Extract” tool and the job flew by. Much, much quicker that it used to be in FCP.
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I’m battling my keyboard shortcut setup right now as well – same issue with the next/prev edit thing.
I’m attempting to learn as many of the PP default shortcuts as possible. However, one shortcut that I really have to change is the next/previous edit buttons. They default map to Page Up/Down. I created a custom layout and mapped the keys to the Up/Down arrows (as in FCP7). When I click in the program monitor the shortcuts work fine. However, clicking in an active timeline (Sequence window) and toggling the Up/Down arrow results in scrolling the timeline.
The strange thing is that when I load the FCP7 default keyboard in PP I can activate the timeline and use the remapped Next/Prev edit buttons fine. This makes me think that somehow I need to disable to up and down arrows for scrolling in the timeline. I searched all through the custom keyboard settings and couldn’t find anything.
Any solutions out there? Clearly, Adobe figured it out and worked it into the FCP7 Layout Preset. What am I missing in my custom layout?
Thanks,
T.J. Imbrigiotta
Envision Communications, Inc.
Washington DC
https://envisioncommunicationsinc.comMac Pro
2 x 3.2GHz Quad Core Intel Xeon
6GB RAM
AJA Kona LHe
OS 10.6.4 -
I figured out the solution.
I was only searching the “Application” menu within the keyboard shortcuts panel. The path to correct this was: Keyboard Shortcuts – Panels – Timeline Panel – and then disablling “Show Next Screen” and “Show Previous Screen.” Which shared the “Up” and “Down” key mapping.
T.J. Imbrigiotta
Envision Communications, Inc.
Washington DC
https://envisioncommunicationsinc.comMac Pro
2 x 3.2GHz Quad Core Intel Xeon
6GB RAM
AJA Kona LHe
OS 10.6.4 -
I think the answer you’re looking for is to go to Edit > Keyboard Shortcuts… > go to Ripple Trim Next Edit to Playhead, click in space in Shortcut column > click Edit below > type an R
Repeat for Ripplr Trim Previous Edit to Playhead and enter a W then OK
and you’re in business.
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