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  • And now there’s nothing I prefer in Avid

    Posted by Rob Tinworth on November 28, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    Just installed FCP7.

    A small tear of happiness wells up in the corner of my eye as I place a marker in the timeline, indicate a colour for it, then delete a clip and watch the marker slide down the timeline.

    Final Cut Pro is finished.

    Rob Tinworth
    http://www.1021.tv

    Rob Tinworth replied 16 years, 5 months ago 5 Members · 11 Replies
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  • Michael Gissing

    November 28, 2009 at 10:40 pm

    It’s the little things that impress, like a chocolate on the pillow in a cheap motel.

    But seriously, Media Manager isn’t rock solid, round tripping to Color and Motion still has some way to go to be perfectly reliable and when will FCP warn that it doesn’t have a font before opening a project and changing every text box to a different font without even a post warning of what it has done.

    My eyes are still dry but I am much happier with FCS3 and my new MacPro, Kona 3 and Color 1.5.

  • Shane Ross

    November 29, 2009 at 2:01 am

    Interesting, because Avid’s Mix and Match, Avid Media Access (AMA), transition preservation (now more enhanced) and ScriptSync are pulling me back to Avid in a hard way.

    Shane

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  • Rob Tinworth

    November 29, 2009 at 2:53 pm

    Looks like Avid are creeping closer to a world where we never render.

    What I’d really like to see in FCP is background rendering. The first non linear system I cut on was the catchily named FAST 601 (later bought by Pinnacle, who were then eaten by Avid). FAST 601 had two great things going for it – it saved 100 times a second so you never lost anything (although it also crashed so frequently this feature was a necessity), and background rendering.

    I can have Motion rendering an effect, while DVD Studio Pro is building title sets, while Compressor is rendering an h.264. Final Cut can anaylse smoothcam in the background. It can even render to different codecs in the background now. Why does rendering an effect still lock me out of FCP? What was the magic pixie dust in FAST ten years ago that allowed background rendering?

    But I digress. It’s great to see a version of FCP where they’ve concentrated on getting the features that already exist working better.

    Rob Tinworth
    http://www.1021.tv

  • Walter Biscardi

    November 29, 2009 at 3:03 pm

    [Rob Tinworth] “What was the magic pixie dust in FAST ten years ago that allowed background rendering?”

    Well you did say that FAST crashed often, which is something I also heard a lot. Background rendering AND doing other tasks is a good way to crash a system, even today’s systems. So while it was a nice feature, it probably was a primary reason for many of the crashes most folks got with that particular system.

    If you have FCP rendering and you decide to go off and do other tasks like Photoshop, AE, Motion, Safari, etc…. you run a good risk that you will crash the computer. In effect, that’s FCP rendering in the background while you do other things.

    So I think by not having background rendering, you get a much more stable system. That’s my take on it.

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  • Rob Tinworth

    November 29, 2009 at 3:17 pm

    and that render bar is always a good excuse to make a cup of tea.

    Just working my way through your Color DVD – great stuff.

    Rob Tinworth
    http://www.1021.tv

  • Peter Corbett

    November 30, 2009 at 7:37 am

    I’ve just switched from Premiere / Windows after several years of doing high-end commercials and corporates, and I am enjoying the transition, particularly the stability. But don’t flame me here but Finals Cut’s text generator and still-image scale and motion manipulation are woeful compared to Premiere. I just couldn’t believe the text generator when I first used it. What have the designers been thinking the past five years?

    The Premiere text designers came from Inscriber and is really is workable and powerful in real life editing. Same goes for quickly doing fast still montages with movement ala Ken Burns style.

    Sigh…anyway back to Final Cut. When I’m better at FCP, I’ll post what I love about it…

    Peter Corbett
    Powerhouse Productions
    http://www.php.com.au

  • Michael Gissing

    November 30, 2009 at 11:53 am

    Have you tried the Boris text generators? They are a big improvement on the FCP standard text gens. There are also some third party text plugins and some powerful text tools in Motion.

    Lyric make a better stills manipulation plug for the Ken Burns style moves. There are many others and a search of this forum will show some recommendations.

  • Walter Biscardi

    November 30, 2009 at 2:01 pm

    [Peter Corbett] “I just couldn’t believe the text generator when I first used it. What have the designers been thinking the past five years?”

    As Michael says, the Boris 3D titles are a “real text generator” compared to FCP’s little wonky text tool. The Text Tool is great for very basic text and to create placeholders in your timeline, which is what we use it primarily for.

    Then you go into Boris 3D for your final text which is a very good titling tool.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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    Biscardi Creative Media

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  • Rob Tinworth

    November 30, 2009 at 2:32 pm

    Peter – You should explore Motion. It’s great for manipulating the ease in/ease out on stills and generating text. The roundtrip from FCP is very simple.

    Rob Tinworth
    http://www.1021.tv

  • Peter Corbett

    November 30, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    [Rob Tinworth] “Peter – You should explore Motion. It’s great for manipulating the ease in/ease out on stills and generating text. The roundtrip from FCP is very simple.”

    Thanks Rob,

    I’ll give it a go. I can’t use the FCP internal scaling very effectively. Just ramping to a smooth stop on an image pan and zoom is not great even with the bezier keyframes.

    Peter Corbett
    Powerhouse Productions
    http://www.php.com.au

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