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  • Am I with a good workflow ? I’ve got jagged pixels on final DVD ….

    Posted by Fredy Schwerdtner on March 26, 2010 at 9:14 pm

    Fellows let’s list what I did:

    I recorded with my HDV camera Sony HVR-A1U as HDV,
    Captured as PRORES 422, edited as PRORES, inserted some clips from Motion, musics, Titles from LiveType ….. and than exported as simple Quicktime (not conversion).
    Using compressor, I choose the “best quality” encoding settings:

    Name: MPEG-2 6.5Mbps 2-pass
    Description: Fits up to 90 minutes of video with Dolby Digital audio at 192 Kbps or 60 minutes with AIFF audio on a DVD-5
    File Extension: m2v
    Estimated size: 2.86 GB/hour of source
    Type: MPEG-2 video elementary stream
    Usage:SD DVD
    Video Encoder
    Format: M2V
    Width: 720
    Height: 480
    Pixel aspect ratio: NTSC CCIR 601/DV (16:9)
    Crop: None
    Padding: None
    Frame rate: 29.97
    Frame Controls: Automatically selected: Off
    Start timecode from source
    Aspect ratio: 16:9
    Field dominance: Automatic
    Average bit rate: 6.5 (Mbps)
    2 Pass VBR enabled
    Maximum bit rate: 7.8 (Mbps)
    High quality
    Best motion estimation
    Closed GOP Size: 15, Structure: IBBP
    DVD Studio Pro meta-data enabled

    After that I importef everything to DVDSP, did the “Build” and after that the “Format”. And i the end I still get jagged pixels on camera movings.
    Why ??? loll
    I’ve watched the final DVD on a LG widesreen 32″ wt. a Phillips DVD Player.
    Could the problem be between the interlaced material played on a progressive TV ?

    MacBook Pro 17″
    2.5 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
    4GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
    (2) External HD LaCieMac (400/800 FW and USB)with 500GB -(2) USB External HD Western Digital (in cases) with 750GB
    OS X 10.5.7
    Final Cut Studio 2

    Patricia Buskirk replied 15 years, 5 months ago 5 Members · 16 Replies
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  • Daniel Low

    March 26, 2010 at 11:40 pm

    [Fredy Schwerdtner] “I recorded with my HDV camera Sony HVR-A1U as HDV”

    720p or 1080i?

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  • Fredy Schwerdtner

    March 28, 2010 at 7:24 am

    It was in 1080i …..

    MacBook Pro 17″
    2.5 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
    4GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
    (2) External HD LaCieMac (400/800 FW and USB)with 500GB -(2) USB External HD Western Digital (in cases) with 750GB
    OS X 10.5.7
    Final Cut Studio 2

  • Daniel Low

    March 28, 2010 at 9:13 am

    Did you deinterlace the HDV footage?

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  • Fredy Schwerdtner

    March 29, 2010 at 6:48 pm

    No I did not …..

    MacBook Pro 17″
    2.5 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
    4GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
    (2) External HD LaCieMac (400/800 FW and USB)with 500GB -(2) USB External HD Western Digital (in cases) with 750GB
    OS X 10.5.7
    Final Cut Studio 2

  • Daniel Low

    March 29, 2010 at 7:09 pm

    [Fredy Schwerdtner] “No I did not ….. “

    You need to. Use the Frame Controls in Compressor to perform this.

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  • Fredy Schwerdtner

    March 29, 2010 at 9:08 pm

    Daniel, I’m a little be confused …..
    Do i have to do it always ? What happens if somebody watches the DVD on a old regular TV set ? I meant, not the new widescreen progressive ones ….

    MacBook Pro 17″
    2.5 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
    4GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
    (2) External HD LaCieMac (400/800 FW and USB)with 500GB -(2) USB External HD Western Digital (in cases) with 750GB
    OS X 10.5.7
    Final Cut Studio 2

  • Fredy Schwerdtner

    March 29, 2010 at 9:08 pm

    Thanks Daniel ….. in advance …..

    MacBook Pro 17″
    2.5 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
    4GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
    (2) External HD LaCieMac (400/800 FW and USB)with 500GB -(2) USB External HD Western Digital (in cases) with 750GB
    OS X 10.5.7
    Final Cut Studio 2

  • Daniel Low

    March 29, 2010 at 9:25 pm

    If you are taking interlaced HD content down to SD then you have to deinterlace, regardless of what display you’ll be viewing it on. 1080i into 480i or 576i will not fit

    Just because it’s an ‘old’ regular TV does not mean the source needs to be interlaced.

    Interlace was used to get over ‘bandwidth’ restrictions.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interlace#History

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  • Brian Alexander

    March 31, 2010 at 1:43 am

    I wouldn’t deinterlace the footage for a couple of reasons:

    1. The existing hardware deinterlace processors are going to do less damage than software deinterlacing plus you save time in this step of the workflow.

    2. Creating 30p (29.97) material on a DVD is going to introduce more artifacts by double (really triple) processing. Scan Line Decimation (480p -> 480i) then Scan Line Interpolation (480i -> 480p). (Scan line interpolation on LCD, Plasmas, Projectors; normal interlaced scan modes on CRT displays)

    That said, here’s how I would troubleshoot the jaggies:

    1. Make sure another DVD looks the same on the same monitor. You could be looking at poor processing in the monitor.

    2. Scaling factors are different with different displays so your best bet would be to look at this DVD on your computer at it’s native resolution. Turn off the deinterlace filter if your using DVD Player, (OS X) this will show you true quality without all the processing.

    3. Make sure the DVD player is setup correctly for your 16:9 or 4:3 display.

    4. Make sure Zoom or Stretch or Fill is not enabled on the monitor.


    Brian Alexander
    Sr Video Engineer
    Freeman AVS

  • Daniel Low

    March 31, 2010 at 5:52 pm

    [Brian Alexander] “I wouldn’t deinterlace the footage for a couple of reasons: “

    Good luck getting 1080i content to look good in a 480i program without deinterlacing!

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