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  • Am I missing Something or is premiere terrible at compressing video?

    Posted by Cody Campbell on February 9, 2012 at 6:25 pm

    I was given this awful project where I had to take this guys presentation slides and match it to his lecture audio then push it out as mp4 so he could load it on his website (im not being a jerk by saying it was awful – he told me it was going to be god awful)

    anyways I dropped the frame rate down to 2 frames a second since these were static slides, I played around with compression for what seem like eternity. No matter what I did it came out a muddy mess.

    After pulling my hair out for a while I imported the premiere project into after effects and on my first try with 2 frames per second and keyframe distance at 1 in compression the file came out beautiful AND small. So why is it that the same settings in after effects came out exponentially better than when I tried it in premiere? Am I doing something wrong or is this a deal breaker?

    cody campbell
    Just because noone understands you does not make you an artist

    Alex Udell replied 14 years, 3 months ago 6 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Petros Kolyvas

    February 9, 2012 at 7:21 pm

    Hi there,

    I don’t believe the MainConcept H.264/MPEG-4 Encoders out of Premiere or AME can do anything less than 10fps. Even if you were to setup a Sequence at 2 fps…

    How were you able to setup AME/Export for 2fps?

    AE on the other hand can (and is often used) to render out all sorts of weirdness. 😉

    It doesn’t mean you did anything wrong, just asking the question. 😉

    PK


    There is no intuitive interface, not even the nipple. It’s all learned. – Bruce Ediger

  • John Frey

    February 9, 2012 at 8:52 pm

    You are missing something.

    John D. Frey
    25 Year owner/operator of two California-based production studios.

    Digital West Video Productions of San Luis Obispo and Inland Images of Lake Elsinore

  • Cody Campbell

    February 9, 2012 at 10:20 pm

    I did a quicktime with both h264 and mp4.. I was given the option of 1,5,6,10 yada yada

    even at 10frames and a larger file size– text on the slides was not legible

    Just because noone understands you does not make you an artist

  • Cody Campbell

    February 9, 2012 at 10:21 pm

    thanks for the incite.. what am i missing then

    Just because noone understands you does not make you an artist

  • Rick Diamond

    February 10, 2012 at 12:57 am

    How about exporting a still frame of each slide as a jpg or png since they’re static slides. You can then bring them into the Premiere project and extend the still as long as you like on the timeline.

    Rick

  • Kris Merkel

    February 10, 2012 at 3:22 pm

    You have not told us much about your workflow, such as how long the program is, deliverable specs ect. but i am trying to figure out why you would want to drop your encoded framerate to 2fps.

    when you could:

    -cut your project in PPro (Where I assume it looks fine) then…
    -FileExportMedia or cnmd+m
    -in adobe media encoder choose the codec you would like, adjust the parameters to meet your deliverable specs, set your bitrate and encode.

    PPro does not compress video for output, that is a job for another program.

    “Think of everything in terms of building capacity.”

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  • Kris Merkel

    February 10, 2012 at 3:26 pm

    You can view Richard Harington’s Adobe media encoder tut here:

    https://library.creativecow.net/harrington_richard/Premiere-Pro_Adobe-Media-Encoder/1

    “Think of everything in terms of building capacity.”

    Kris Merkel
    twitter @kris_merkel
    Product Specialist, Flanders Scientific Inc.
    http://www.shopfsi.com
    Co-Founder, Atlanta Cutters Post Production User Group
    http://www.atlantacutters.com

    2.2Ghz MBP core i7
    16Gb RAM
    CS 5.5
    FCP7 and Studio
    Blackmagic Design UltraStudio 3D
    AJA IO XT
    FSI LM-2340W
    2TB Max Digital Pro Edit2 VR
    1TB LaCie Thunderbolt
    1TB CalDigit FW VR
    2TB LaCie Big disk



  • Alex Udell

    February 11, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    Hi Cody….

    This might be an input side problem.

    So you are starting with slide files?
    Are the slide files of matching resolution to each other?

    How did you determine the sequence setting for use in PPro?

    Assuming you can get the slide gfx into a common resolution (say in Photoshop), you might then use one of the slides as the basis of sequence resolution in PPro, by dragging the slide file in the project panel down on to the “new sequence” button at the bottom of the project panel.

    Now with a sequence that matches that resolution as you basis..you may have better luck getting a higher quality final output from AME.

    This is a guess on my part. basically, if you are starting with computer based images, but dropping them onto a lower resolution timeline (like say NTSC or whatever your default is), this would likely give you pretty bad output.

    Let me know if that helps.

    Alex

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