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ALEXA vs. RED?
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[Michael Bravin] “And this is all before we have even shipped a camera”
So, what you’re saying, Michael, is that ARRI will actually present a camera that is ready to go to work as opposed to releasing a prototype on build 1 that will take years (Build 24)to never actually finish. Hmmmm
Steve Wargo
Tempe, Arizona
It’s a dry heat!Sony HDCAM F-900 & HDW-2000/1 deck
5 Final Cut (not quite PRO) systems
Sony HVR-M25 HDV deck
2-Sony EX-1 HD .Ask me how to Market Yourself using Send Out Cards
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I will be getting my Alexa tattoo in July.
Yeah, got mine last month at Cinegear.. It was more fun than the branding I got from an overheated f900
gary adcock
Studio37Post and Production Workflow Consultant
Production and Post Stereographer
Technology Development
Quality Assurance AssistanceChicago, IL
https://blogs.creativecow.net/24640
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Fortunately Steve, it looks like Alexa`s going to become deservingly a relatively unmoving item of engineering while the software brings most changes. Arri`s going to feel a little loopy when some new customers try to hook up 5 or 10 Alexas in parallel on a live mixing board while others try to upgrade their D20 or D21 into an Alexa. I can just see all those Alexa camera bodies drying their enamel paint in ARRI Manufacturing`s driveway while they wait for the decreasing volcano dust to mercifully let them restart making circuit boards and those little layer cards. -And I can just hear your sigh of relief when you can slow or stop buying those annoying Sony cables.
[Michael Bravin] “And this is all before we have even shipped a camera”
So, what you’re saying, Michael, is that ARRI will actually present a camera that is ready to go to work as opposed to releasing a prototype on build 1 that will take years (Build 24)to never actually finish. Hmmmm
Steve Wargo
Tempe, Arizona
It’s a dry heat! -
RED fanboys turn my stomach.
Steve Wargo
Tempe, Arizona
It’s a dry heat!Sony HDCAM F-900 & HDW-2000/1 deck
5 Final Cut (not quite PRO) systems
Sony HVR-M25 HDV deck
2-Sony EX-1 HD .Ask me how to Market Yourself using Send Out Cards
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Just wondering if there will be Avid AMA support like Red?
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In Media Composer 5
Michael Bravin
Alexa Jedi
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My general same advice with a few different verses and yarns:
Buy all the needed cables.
Buy as much main and supporting types of software as possible.
Make your workforce some editing computers, mixers, and other
hardware that will allow their workflow on the new Alexa to be no
more difficult at all than they are doing now. Surely you don`t think
their work habits will improve for no reason?
If your art department makes differerential color test charts complete
with nested memory color pictures like you`re Vistek encoders itself,
alright to share the results, then GET OVER the testing stage.
Plan some first productions that certainly don`t need perfection.
Advice from the U.S. War Department to the Aerial Photographers in WW II:
“Whatever you do, come back with the handles.”.
If you make your first shot some fruit on a table make it a joke not a test!
Alright to steal my words here, I`ll make more. Fred Jodry -
Nice post… being a Red user its great to see you’re open to other cameras… there is so much arguing coming from the Red camp.
Being an Arri user in the film days… also D20 before Red was a Red, I’m partial to Arri.
I have used the R1… camera. The 25K price tag is nice too… until you realize there is not even a viewfinder with it… LOL…
That being said… both Arri and Red are hot items in the cinema world… I will continue to use both…
But if I could buy one camera, I’d go with Genesis… you can’t buy those so Arri is next.Kirk Gillon
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Hello,
Even if this discussion is now a little bit older i would like to participate. I’m student doing a research for a case study to get to know some details of the cinema camera business.Maybe you can help me here. I would like to know if there are any informations about market shares in forums/news sites special for film industry or any other numbers about this topic?
Im interested in ARRI, RED and Panavision.
I hope you could help me or even redirect me to a different forum or webpage where i can found more detailed information.Help is highly appreciated 😀
Thanks
Andi -
Andreas, there is a Business And Marketting title in our forums- but I would think that it is a much better question why these businesses exist in the first place. For one thing, these businesses have in some cases been continuously in operation for more than a hundred years, while the newer or new ones just squeeze in to an often existing market without ruffling each other`s feathers whether the oppportunities are crowded or not. Most businesses use their own money not even the banks` money to start or roll whether they are poor or rich. If you are studying the job of Business Manager you would be better off studying the job of Business Controller/ Comptroller (same name) as it is a much more hands on version of the job. See, one of the problems about aiming towards the typical job of Business Manager is that really everything, almost everything, is often rather lacking and has to be made fresh from scratch in order to exist. There`s no market, it has to be made. There are no product or products, they have to be made. For example, when one of my old Engineering jobs aimed me into making some sales time on the telephone, one morning I found myself talking to another TV and industrial Engineer who had a really great product he had on the market for about 4 years. ¨Would you send us our first one to sample and sell?¨, I questioned. ¨Sure.¨, he said. When I got the package in the mail from the middle of the country a few days later openning it produced an unexpected disappointment. The Inventor- Engineer had mailed me his original invention because no made units had ever sold in the distraction that is the real marketplace. Try reading the Art Of The Edit topic. The tales of woe and practical advice are relatively plentiful there. Don`t even worry about new or old technology as long as there`s a market. You can copy or make piano rolls for a living, or for $100,000 more you can use a servo mirrors set on an Alexa to make 3D originals that fill nickelodeon trays with replacement prints, a technological mix, or you can use one of these new cameras to make originals that burn theatre film prints. Make your business, make your choice, make your job. Don`t worry too much about making yourself a name. Famous or not, you were already born with one. Congratulations on studying from the beginning of a topic, it shows how the topic was made.
Hello,
Even if this discussion is now a little bit older i would like to participate. I’m student doing a research for a case study to get to know some details of the cinema camera business.Maybe you can help me here. I would like to know if there are any informations about market shares in forums/news sites special for film industry or any other numbers about this topic?
Im interested in ARRI, RED and Panavision.
I hope you could help me or even redirect me to a different forum or webpage where i can found more detailed information.Help is highly appreciated 😀
Thanks
Andi
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