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  • AJA KONA 3 & MAC PRO DROPPING FRAMES

    Posted by Anonymous on February 14, 2007 at 11:53 am

    Hi all,

    Relavant System specs:

    MAC PRO 2×2.66GHz, 4GB RAM
    OSX 10.4.7
    AJA KONA3
    4G Fibre card
    FCP (5.1.2)
    KONA drivers (3.3)

    I have what I think is a kona/macpro problem! Whenever I go to playout to tape, be it PAL SD 10bit uncompressed, DV via SDI, HD 10bit uncompresssed (ie:Anything!!) The playout will start just fine, then between 10-14minutes in it will ‘drop frames’ and stop the playout. If you then assemble on from here, it will continue to religiously drop frames every 10-14 minutes.

    I have tried the following to isolate certain parts of the syetem:

    Tried to playout a simple DV sequence over SDI using AJA KONA 3 – PAL 8 bit to DV from a firewire drive not involving the attached SAN in anyway – DROPS FRAMES every 10-14mins

    Tried to playout JUST 30minutes of bars and tone out from within final cut at varying resolutions not using any additional media – DROPS FRAMES every 10-14mins

    Tried to playout 30 minutes of DV footage to a DVCAM deck via firewire – PERFECT. NO DROPPED FRAMES

    Has anyone any thoughts? This has got me scratching my head!

    Many thanks…….

    Anonymous replied 19 years, 3 months ago 6 Members · 16 Replies
  • 16 Replies
  • Walter Biscardi

    February 14, 2007 at 6:00 pm

    [creative_tech] “I have what I think is a kona/macpro problem!”

    Dropping frames is solely created by data throughput, has nothing to do with the Kona board. It has everything to do with your media throughput from the hard drives.

    [creative_tech]
    Has anyone any thoughts? This has got me scratching my head!”

    You didn’t say what media storage you’re using.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    https://www.biscardicreative.com
    HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
    HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”

    “I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters

  • Jeremy Garchow

    February 14, 2007 at 10:49 pm

    [walter biscardi] “Dropping frames is solely created by data throughput, has nothing to do with the Kona board. It has everything to do with your media throughput from the hard drives.”

    Will all do resepct, this is not entirely true. If you have the wrong easy setup chosen (say trying to play an uncompressed timeline when the Kona’s expecting a dv timeline) you will most likely get dropped frames no matter how fast your drives are.

    Creative_Tech, try selecting the proper easy setup for each timeline and retry. Also, you need to setup your PCIe slot configuration according to the Kona specs outlined on their website.

    Jeremy

  • Walter Biscardi

    February 14, 2007 at 10:56 pm

    [JeremyG] “Will all do resepct, this is not entirely true. If you have the wrong easy setup chosen (say trying to play an uncompressed timeline when the Kona’s expecting a dv timeline) you will most likely get dropped frames no matter how fast your drives are.”

    Jeremy you are absolutely correct! Didn’t even think about that.

    And along those same lines, ensure that you have your Canvas and Viewer set to “Fit To Window.” If they are scaled up beyond what either can show, you can also get dropped frames that way too.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    https://www.biscardicreative.com
    HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
    HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”

    “I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters

  • Bob Zelin

    February 15, 2007 at 1:28 am

    If this gentlemen is using an Apple XServe RAID, (he did say he had a FC card, so I assume that he has an XServe RAID, but I could be wrong) –
    he MUST turn off CACHE FLUSHING in the System settings of RAID ADMIN, or he will get dropped frames.

    But he has not responded to what type of storage he is using.

    bob Zelin

  • Jeremy Garchow

    February 15, 2007 at 1:44 am

    He said some sort of SAN and firewire drives…?

  • Bob Zelin

    February 15, 2007 at 1:49 am

    You write –

    Tried to playout a simple DV sequence over SDI using AJA KONA 3 – PAL 8 bit to DV from a firewire drive not involving the attached SAN in anyway – DROPS FRAMES every 10-14mins

    REPLY –
    Firewire drive? I hope it’s a firewire 800 drive – you aint’ gonna get nothin from a firewire 400. Is there anything else on the Firewire buss? Do you have multiple fw drives looped together? What brand of Firewire drive ?

    on the SAN – what SAN – Apple XSAn, MetaSan, Terrablock, EditShare ? Details please !

    Bob Zelin

  • Rob Tobin

    February 15, 2007 at 4:28 pm

    We’re having the same issue.
    Macpro 1.1 2×266- Intel
    4 gigs of ram
    FCP 5.1.2
    Kona 3
    Atto FC-41ES
    6 terbyes of fiber (Terrablock)
    We still have dual 2.5’s running Kona 2 same drive set-up with no problem. Most of our work is 1080i 29.97 or 25. We have followed Kona’s specs.

  • Walter Biscardi

    February 15, 2007 at 4:34 pm

    [Rob Tobin] “6 terbyes of fiber (Terrablock)
    We still have dual 2.5’s running Kona 2 same drive set-up with no problem. Most of our work is 1080i 29.97 or 25. We have followed Kona’s specs.”

    What has Facilis had to say about this issue?

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    https://www.biscardicreative.com
    HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
    HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”

    “I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters

  • Jeremy Garchow

    February 15, 2007 at 4:39 pm

    [Rob Tobin] “We’re having the same issue.”

    Did you setup your PCIe slots correctly?

  • Rob Tobin

    February 15, 2007 at 5:15 pm

    Yes, I think that’s the problem… I just got off the phone with AJA. I’ll re-post if it works.
    Thanks
    RT

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