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AJA HD10C2 to a JVC dvi monitor – what will I loose?
Tim Wilson replied 17 years, 9 months ago 8 Members · 24 Replies
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Bob Zelin
July 29, 2008 at 3:03 amBryan –
I have done my best this evening to enrage you, and make you lash out at me. But I have failed. After all of this, I hope you wind up buying the HDLink Pro, as it is exactly what you need – no matter what you wind up with.Bob Zelin
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Bryan Fowler
July 29, 2008 at 3:13 am=)
Actually, i’m on my way over to your house right now! It’s hard to type on my iphone while I’m driving 85mph down I-4.
For storage, I’m just buying 10 or 12 firewire drives, and a couple of firewire hubs and I should be right as rain. And I found an AWESOME wicked HD tv from DYNEX. It even has HDMI.
more later as the gear comes in!
(The HD link Pro is what I’m getting… Looking at eCinema for the display, although that depends on budget for the first indie talkie thing. I’m hoping my Genelec’s will be ok for audio, or the crappier Tannoy.)
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Margus Voll
July 29, 2008 at 6:31 amHi Bob.
I wonder if you have tested HDLink Pro and maybe you have a written peace for it ?
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Margus
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Margus Voll
July 29, 2008 at 6:33 am -
Bob Zelin
July 29, 2008 at 5:01 pmNo –
I have not written a review on the HDLink Pro, because here in poor pathetic Orlando, we are just getting started working in normal HD, and 2K is a LONG WAY OFF from happening anywhere in Central Florida.A lot of the “prejudice” comments I make are based on use in my market. I make fun of editing in 23.98, because no one is finishing for a feature film release here – only TV, so I make smart ass comments about 23.98 (and everyone should edit at 59.94) – just because of what I am exposed to.
Same applies to 2K. HOWEVER, you will see me review the incredible BMD 72×144 Videohub when I can get my hands on one.
Bob Zelin
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Dylan Reeve
July 29, 2008 at 11:01 pmI reckon Jim Jannard and RED have a lot to answer for when it comes to messing up expectations.
I love the RED One camera, I have now worked on set and in post on a number of RED shoots (all destined for no greater than 1080 in the end). It’s a camera for $18,000 (we’ll ignore lenses and accessories) that can shoot 4K!
Every indie filmmaker in the country is now convinced they can cut their opus in 4K in FCP and have it projected at the local Multiplex for less than it costs to sponsor a kid in Africa.
They are very mistaken. Yes, they can shoot RED, in 2K, 3K or even 4K. Yes they can cut it in FCP (or Avid, or Premiere, or whatever if they are game to play around). But the 2K or 4K finish, there’s the rub. FCP can, in theory, work with 2K resolutions. But it’s far from simple at that point, it’s not like video. You can’t just spit it out. There are huge issues to consider about LUTs, delivery, compression, audio mastering.
My advice to anyone thinking they ought to get into 2K on the cheap is, don’t. Wait. Stop. Think about it. FCP and Color and all the rest are good tools, but this isn’t really their strongest area, and chances are it’s not yours either. There are product and people who really know what they are doing and do it well. Those people and products are what you need. Shoot 4K, edit the proxies in FCP or Avid or whatever, but when it comes to the finishing, if you want any bigger than 1080 then it’s time to find a friendly expert. Hire/beg some time on a Scratch or Pablo or Smoke with someone who really knows their stuff. The future nightmares will be reduced and the quality of the end product will be increased.
2K will come to your desktop in time, but wait a while.
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Bob Zelin
July 29, 2008 at 11:05 pmJust wait until the Scarlet comes out next year. Everyone with $6000 (3k for the cam, 3k for the lens) will want to edit like it’s a DV tape with firewire drive. “How can I see my 3K media from Scarlet on my 19″ JVC TV – does Blackmagic make a 3K to NTSC composite downconverter”. “Can I use the Scarlet media, and output with my $249 Intensity card”.
They just don’t get it – do they?
Bob Zelin
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Dylan Reeve
July 30, 2008 at 1:05 am[Bob Zelin] “They just don’t get it – do they?”
Maybe we don’t get it? Time will tell.
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Bob Zelin
July 30, 2008 at 1:31 amDylan,
I may be angry, but I am no fool. 2K and 4K workflow will continue to develop, so that ANYONE can do it, with no knowlege, no workflow issues, and almost no equipment. And Blackmagic is VERY AWARE OF THIS, and will probably be on the forefront of the development of products for this type of market. Just look at the success of so many of their products. When idiots like me said “you have to buy an HD monitor”, Blackmagic came out with the original HDLink. Now they have the HDLink Pro. And innovative products like the Decklink Line that can handle 3G HD-SDI just keep making it easier and easier for the “entry level” people (pushing out the elitist pros that are trying to make a living). So I do not question that there will be a “cheapo” 2K and 4K editing solution in the near future. I just don’t like it ! Remember, RED’s current workflow and aggrivation is just DAY 1 of 4K workflow. Soon (sooner than we think), these files will work seamlessly in FCP, no different than RED files work right now in Assimilate Scratch. And who knows, maybe NAB2009 or NAB2010 will show a Blackmagic Decklink 2K card for $895. And along with your HDLink Pro, you are doing everything this guy wants.Bob Zelin
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Margus Voll
July 30, 2008 at 8:02 amHi Bob,
Sounds really promising …. with new hub.
To “good” for me at the moment as we are also starting HD and 2K in small market.You just have really “objective” feel about stuff you test.
This is why i asked HDLink Pro. I presonally do not fancy MXO that Shane has review. Des not mach Multibridge to much in my eye.But if i can get hold of one HDLink Pro i’ll definetly give feedback how SD upconversion looks.
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Margus
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