AJA HD10AVA

[Jared Picune]

Thanks for the update, I have been waiting to order one. Sounds like a great little box.

Jared
Idea Spring Editing, Inc.
Denver Final Cut Pro UG

[Bob Zelin]

Walter –
what are you using for VTR control – are you using Firewire, or are you using the
Addenda RS-4/L, which has a protocol listed in FCP ?

Bob Zelin

[Walter Biscardi]

[Bob Zelin] “what are you using for VTR control – are you using Firewire”

Firewire. I like to keep things simple.

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”

“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters

[Bob Zelin]

so when you use Firewire for VTR control of the HVRM – should I assume that you are disconnecting your AJA I/O LA from this system ?

bob zelin

[Walter Biscardi]

[Bob Zelin] “so when you use Firewire for VTR control of the HVRM – should I assume that you are disconnecting your AJA I/O LA from this system ?”

The Io is only connected to a system when it is needed. It’s not kept connected and running at all times because we only use it on occasion. I mainly keep it hardwired to our BetaSP machine for layoffs for NBC News stories and some corporate jobs that require a Beta master.

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”

“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters

[John Christie]

Not to put down the AJA box, I love their stuff, but you’re adding some analog noise by outputting from the HDV deck component outputs.

Both Convergent Design and Miranda make boxes that convert from firewire to HD-SDI without resorting to analog. I’ve been using the Convergent box for a while and it does a great job.

Cheers

John Christie

[Mark Maness]

It all comes down to budget, John.

Those of us who have tight budgets, get AJA boxes. Those who don’t, can get more.

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Wayne Carey
Schazam Productions
http://www.schazamproductions.com

[Walter Biscardi]

[Wayne Carey] “It all comes down to budget, John.

Those of us who have tight budgets, get AJA boxes. Those who don’t, can get more.”

Perhaps in your case, but not in my case with this product. I go with a company that has equipment I trust, and that’s AJA. I do not have any desire for Miranda or Convergent Design products at this time and find the AJA product a perfect fit for what we are doing here with this series.

As for noise in the signal, if it’s there, it’s imperceptible to these eyes.

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”

“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters

[Bob Zelin]

John ,
Walter is absolutely correct. You have this fantasy that analog HD has all this noise in it, and that firewire is the only way to go (via the Convergent Design or Miranda). Price or no price, for all my BROADCAST INSTALLATIONS that require HDV, I use the Sony HVRM-25U, and feed this into a HD10A (I have not used the AVA yet), and go into either an AVID Adrenaline HD, and AVID Nitris, or an AJA Kona 3. I have never had one broadcast customer complain even a little, from the HD10A HD-SDI signal feeding an AVID Adrenaline HD.

This applies to analog audio products as well. With a S/N ratio of -95dB, no one can tell the difference between a hi end analog audio product, and a digital audio product – especially one with poor sampling, and poor A/D and D/A converters in it (you have to hear it somehow !).

So John, I am sorry, but I do not know what you are talking about – regardless of the price.

Bob Zelin

[John Christie]

Interesting thoughts. My reasons for choosing the Convergent box was because of my workflow. I work with the DVCPro HD codec, so I didn’t want to be adding compression noise to analog noise.

One of my systems has a Blackmagic Extreme with component analog in. I’ll try and run some tests to see if there is a noticeable difference by the time it all ends up as DVC Pro HD.

And Bob, I couldn’t agree more on the audio side of things.

Cheers guys.