AJA & Blackmagic use same UC right?

[Jeremy Garchow]

[walter biscardi] ” it is still a lossless process coming in via SDI and in fact, the quality is a smidge better.”

Holy cow, the jig is up. I am glad someone else has said this, because no one seems to believe me that capturing through an HD SDI pipe (or even SD SDI) has advantages, and I am not just talking about RS-422 transport. HD SDI is HARDWARE not software. WIthin the deck are little electronics that are meant to push every last bit of quality out of the DVCPro HD tape and into the HD SDI. Hardware conversion almost always do a better job than software.

Thanks, Walter, for now sending us on the road to believability.

When you speak people listen.

Jeremy

[Walter Biscardi]

[JeremyG] “WIthin the deck are little electronics that are meant to push every last bit of quality out of the DVCPro HD tape and into the HD SDI. Hardware conversion almost always do a better job than software.

Thanks, Walter, for now sending us on the road to believability.”

Well it’s a combination of the hardware on the deck and the hardware on the Kona 3 that equates to a slightly better image. Quite honestly I delivered about 30 masters using Firewire workflow before switching to SDI. I think it’s one of those “6 of one, half dozen of the other.”

If SDI is available to you, then use it. If Firewire is all you have, then use that. Just my own personal observation that SDI certainly does not make the image any worse.

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Broadcast and independent productions.

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[Jeremy Garchow]

[walter biscardi] “Just my own personal observation that SDI certainly does not make the image any worse.”

Exactly. And when you bring in the SDI to a higher quality codec, all of the hardware cleaning up is translated into a better file, in my opinion. Even on regular ole DV stuff.

Jeremy

[Mattso]

SIGH…..
A GAZZILION DOLLARS! Yep! ONE GAZILLION DOLLARS to you if you can prove this experience I’ve had (several times) to be untrue. It will likely require you to stop the the space-time continuum and reverese the events of my life — AND sprinkle magic fairy dust into my editing gear, thus creating a wholesale change in its capabilities.
A GAZZILION, Sean.

I’ve hit this dead end several times. And I’m certainly not suggesting that your experiences are any less material. I mean its POSSIBLE you’re all high… but I’m nt suggesting it.

Seriously though… could this phenomenon be a product of my still using a G5? The added processor power of the ProMac might be making more than a little bit of a difference… No?

Incidentally, this is NOT the first time I’ve run into this. This was also true with the CinewaveRT system I had before that product dissappeared… and I THINK it was the state of affairs with the AVID I owned before that.

Perhaps you’re all just part of some sort of Wizard coven…
I am, after all, just a wee, lowly Director…. and a muggle to boot.

best
matt

“I don’t Tan… I stroke.”

~ Woody Allen

[Mattso]

SIGH…..
A GAZZILION DOLLARS! Yep! ONE GAZILLION DOLLARS to you if you can prove this experience I’ve had (several times) to be untrue. It will likely require you to stop the the space-time continuum and reverese the events of my life — AND sprinkle magic fairy dust into my editing gear, thus creating a wholesale change in its capabilities.
A GAZZILION, Sean.

I’ve hit this dead end several times. And I’m certainly not suggesting that your experiences are any less material. I mean its POSSIBLE you’re all high… but I’m nt suggesting it.

Seriously though… could this phenomenon be a product of my still using a G5? The added processor power of the ProMac might be making more than a little bit of a difference… No?

Incidentally, this is NOT the first time I’ve run into this. This was also true with the CinewaveRT system I had before that product dissappeared… and I THINK it was the state of affairs with the AVID I owned before that.

Perhaps you’re all just part of some sort of Wizard coven…
I am, after all, just a wee, lowly Director…. and a muggle to boot.

best
matt

“I don’t Tan… I stroke.”

~ Woody Allen

[Jeremy Garchow]

If you can post a Blackmagic clip, I will be HAPPY to take a look and also take your Gazillion dollars.

Jeremy

[Gary Adcock]

[JeremyG] ” I will be HAPPY to take a look and also take your Gazillion dollars.”

jeremy

he is only a “lowly director” so he only has millions, so your GAZ is out-a-luck

gary adcock
Studio37
HD & Film Consultation
Post and Production Workflows

[Jeremy Garchow]

Damn. Guess I’ll have to settle for mills.

[Christopher S. johnson]

Mattso doesn’t have a BM card to make a clip for you. He has Kona lh. That’s the point. We were considering mixing a BM and AJA in our workflow. So this thread was started for research about the compatibility of the two.

We weren’t looking for a debate. We were looking for people with experience cross pollenating clips between systems.

Both compressed and uncompressed formats.

What I am hearing from all of you is that you are 100% sure that a clip captured on one system will be recognized as an exact equal on the other. Meaning one will NEVER EVER see a dark green RT render bar when switching between the two cards, if using the same Sequence settings. (with the exception of that 4:4:4 thingy)

Nobody disagrees with this, right? The people saying this works I am sure are speaking from direct experience and not theory, right?

Good. Thanks for the info. This has been helpful and I am grateful for the education.

– Christopher S. Johnson

[Jeremy Garchow]

So who has the Decklink?