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Aid me with this… removing a clip by extending the previous clip.
There must be a simple workflow for this, but I’m finding that I’m running into this over and over.
I have two clips on a track. All I want to do is extend the end of the first clip to the end of the second clip, thereby removing the second clip.
Easy enough in FCP7. Select the end of the first clip, press the down key to jump to the end of the next clip and press the E key.
In FCX, if I select the edit then move the skimmer down to the next edit and press SHIFT-X to extend the edit, it leaves one frame of video on the second clip. I then need to select that one frame of video and delete it, then extend the previous clip one frame to make up for it.
When the second clip is gap, it gets a little crazier. The one frame of video it leaves, is actually zero frames of video. It’s almost invisible, but it’s there, and it will keep you from performing a rolling trim. You can see the zero frame gap in the timeline index, where I can easily select it and remove it, but come on!
This happens to me alot because I place all of my narration and soundbites in the primary track to begin with, then select all of my narrations and “lift from primary” to put the narrations below the timeline and leave the gap.
I believe that you can’t extend past the end of clips because there may be other clips attached, so it always leaves a little bit of it.
Has anyone else run into this? Is there an easy workflow adjustment? I’m tired of the brain energy it takes to be vigilant to these itty bitty scraps in the timeline and the need to open the timeline index to find them and remove them.
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FCX. She tempts me, abuses me, beats me up, makes me feel worthless, then in the end she comes around, helps me get my work done, gives me hope and I can’t stop thinking about her.Mark Morache
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I feel your pain but I don’t think there’s an equivalent to performing an extend edit over multiple clips. However I’m confused how the workflow you describe necessitate extending edits in that way. I edit in much the same way and I’ve not needed to extend over multiple clips.
Also, I’m not at my computer, but have you tried the trim tool?
Andy
https://www.timesavertutorials.com
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[Andy Neil] “I’m confused how the workflow you describe necessitate extending edits in that way.”
Try this.
Place a gap between two clips.
Now try to extend the first clip to remove the gap.
I generally go to the edit between the first clip and the gap, and press “\” to select the edit.
Press the DOWN key to move the skimmer to the edit at the end of the gap.
Press Shift-X to extend the edit at the end of the clip to then end of the gap.
On the timeline, it looks perfect. The first clip rolled over the second, removing it.
However, look in the timeline index. Select the first clip to find it in the timeline index. Right after it, you will see a gap clip in the index. You won’t see it in the timeline. Zoom all the way into your timeline, and it’s still invisible. Select it in the timeline index and look at the properties window, you will see it has a length of zero.The invisible gap messes with your trimming now, and must be removed.
Perhaps I need to stop using the extend function. Perhaps it’s just a legacy workflow from FCP7 that I need to remove from my workflow. That’s why I’m wondering what other people do. Perhaps their timelines are full of these zero length gap clips, and they don’t even know it.
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FCX. She tempts me, abuses me, beats me up, makes me feel worthless, then in the end she comes around, helps me get my work done, gives me hope and I can’t stop thinking about her.Mark Morache
Avid/Xpri/FCP7/FCX
Evening Magazine,Seattle, WA
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I guess that gap clips can get to be less than a frame because FCPX supports subframe audio editing?
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[Mark Morache] “Perhaps I need to stop using the extend function. Perhaps it’s just a legacy workflow from FCP7 that I need to remove from my workflow. That’s why I’m wondering what other people do. Perhaps their timelines are full of these zero length gap clips, and they don’t even know it.”
I understood how to reproduce the problem, it was the workflow itself I didn’t understand. I start off similarly to you, placing audio in the primary storyline. Usually I leave it there and put broll into a secondary storyline, but I’ve also worked where I lift the audio out of the primary storyline and left the gap.
Because the audio is connected to the gaps, I use the overwrite command to lay video into the primary storyline. This replaces the connection the audio has to the gap with a connection to the new video. Extending edits isn’t necessary. You can also use the replace function which sometimes works even better because it will replace the gap clip (no matter how long) with the new video clip (no matter how long) and resolve the connected audio.
If ever I need to extend over a gap, I typically just delete the gap and ripple the clip instead of using extend.
Andy
https://www.timesavertutorials.com
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what about:
press n to activate snap
command-option-up on the clip you wan to extend to lift it out of the primary storyline
extend end to next end of clip you want to override
command-option-down to drop extended clip back into primary storylineworks here without leaving the one frame gab
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Mark,
Lifting a clip out of the primary storyline also helps with the other problem you were describing in another threat about slipping a clip in place but having the problem that the connected clip moves as well.
Just move the clip out of the primary storyline with command-option-up and than you can do what ever you like with it. All connected clips stay where they are and once happy you can drop the clip back into the primary storyline with command-option-down.
Cheers
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[Carsten Orlt] “command-option-up”
Yep, that sounds like a good workaround.
I use the “lift from storyline” all the time, but I never thought about using it like this.
There seems to be a whole lot of little adjustments that take extra time to perform that frustate the crap out of me. This looks like a keeper however. Thx.
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FCX. She tempts me, abuses me, beats me up, makes me feel worthless, then in the end she comes around, helps me get my work done, gives me hope and I can’t stop thinking about her.Mark Morache
Avid/Xpri/FCP7/FCX
Evening Magazine,Seattle, WA
https://fcpx.wordpress.com
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