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  • After Effects/Avid export_import issues

    Posted by Tina Eveland on April 28, 2008 at 6:49 pm

    Hello,

    I’ve searched all over trying to find answers to this question and I’ve had no luck. I’m having issues exporting images from AE to Avid. Whether it be still fonts that I’ve created in AE, images that I’ve imported into AE from photoshop and then exported out for AVID, or creating moves within AE and then exporting them out as Quicktime – Animation – 100% resolution..I still have some sort of interlacing issue. I actually see it in AE when I watch the RAM preview. Its wavy lines that run through the text or images. If i bring a still image into AE and try to rotate it, i get jagged edges that flutter. Same thing happens if I create a solid in AE and rotate it, jagged edges.

    I’ve tried putting a motion blur on it, a gaussian blur, used thicker type…nothing works. I do not play with the Upper or Lower fields. I’ve researched in the past that its wise just to leave it OFF. But I know thats not problem because I’m seeing that wavy flutterness in the AE program during ram preview.

    Can anyone help?

    Thank You

    Kevin Camp replied 18 years ago 3 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Kevin Camp

    April 28, 2008 at 9:33 pm

    in ae, select a layer that is looking jaggy, and choose layer>quality>best. it may be that the quality of the layer was set to draft (that will make most elements look crappy).

    the quality mode can also be set in the timeline, by clicking the box that is in the column that looks like a jaggy diagonal line.

    Kevin Camp
    Senior Designer
    KCPQ, KMYQ & KRCW

  • Tina Eveland

    April 29, 2008 at 12:23 am

    Thanks for the suggestion Kevin. That appears to not be the issue though…everything is in full/best quality

  • Incredible Bud

    April 29, 2008 at 10:24 am

    I had a problem like this once with an animation of a map.
    The problem was that the quality of the .psd was to high. The thin lines were kind of vibrating.
    I just made a compressed psd before rendering the AE animation.

    Otherwise, try to render your animation with a codec that is made for and by Avid as Avid meridien uncompressed. This is the one I use most of the time.

    But I also have a lot of problems with the import of Alpha in Avid. I’m having thin dark lines around the alpha object/text.

    I hope that can help you

    Matthieu Chevallier

  • Kevin Camp

    April 29, 2008 at 3:24 pm

    [incredible Bud] “But I also have a lot of problems with the import of Alpha in Avid. I’m having thin dark lines around the alpha object/text.”

    you should be able to fix this in the output module settings in the render queue. send your comp to the render queue, click the term next to output module (default says ‘lossless’). set the channels to ‘rgb + alpha’ and color to ‘straight (unmatted).’ this should eliminate the black fringing. avid may have something that can remove the black matte, but this technique will eliminate the fringing.

    aharon rabinowitz has a tutorial that discusses this and other render techniques if you want a better understanding… just click his face and scroll thru his tuts (it should be in the bottom half, he had produced it about year or so ago…)

    tina…

    you are seeing the problem within ae (not just after importing in avid), correct? do you have a broadcast monitor that you can preview the image on in ae? if so, do you see the problem there too?

    what i’m wondering is if you have ae’s pixel aspect ratio correction enabled. ae’s p.a.r. correction is just a quick and dirty compensation for non square pixels, and will produce jaggies in the preview window. you can toggle the par correction on/off at the bottom of the preview window (it looks like a rectangle with a double arrow above it).

    does that help at all with the jaggies in the simple rotate a square/solid situation that you mentioned earlier?

    Kevin Camp
    Senior Designer
    KCPQ, KMYQ & KRCW

  • Tina Eveland

    April 30, 2008 at 5:17 pm

    Hey Kevin,

    I toggled that preview (square w/double headed arrow) and it looks the same either way. I am currently only able to view my animation using a computer monitor. I am not hooked up to a TV. But I’m sure its no different as far as the wavyness I am getting in my text and images when I ram preview it because after I render it out for Avid..I then see it on a broadcast monitor and it does the same thing. This wavyness only happens when a move is applied to text and images. The edges are still jagged. I know with photos though, this happens when Avid importants them and the editor tries to do a rotate..they also get that jagged edge that pulsates as the picture moves.

    Its a crazy thing…but I do appreciate you taking the time to help out. I’ll keep experimenting.

    Thank You

  • Kevin Camp

    April 30, 2008 at 6:40 pm

    how about disabling opengl in ae’s previews preferences. uncheck the box that enables opengl to prevent ae from using opengl to render the previews.

    although since you see the problem in the final render, opengl is not likely the problem, unless you use opengl for final renders (which is not the default setting).

    have you rebooted you machine recently? it often solves unexplainable after effects behavior.

    not that this helps much, but just yesterday, another poster (reggie spires) posted a problem that sounds similar to yours… he describes a problem with text looking wavy with ae… he hasn’t found a solution either.

    Kevin Camp
    Senior Designer
    KCPQ, KMYQ & KRCW

  • Tina Eveland

    May 1, 2008 at 2:46 pm

    Hey Kevin,

    I checked and OpenGL isn’t checked for the final renders nor is it checked for the previews….

  • Kevin Camp

    May 1, 2008 at 3:03 pm

    well, i’m running out of possible solutions here… you may want to post this on adobe’s ae forum to see if someone there can help. also adobe support may help (free of charge in many cases), but try the forum first.

    you might try pulling the after effects preference file (on mac it’s in users/username/library/preferences/adobe/after effects; on pc it’s probably some place similar).

    i seems the problem is in ae, since you can see it in the preview window. so that should rule out a codec or import problem or even a comp setting. you can see it happen just rotating a layer, without any effects, so that rules out an effects problem. opengl is off, so no problems from the graphics card. ae is just not functioning properly….

    Kevin Camp
    Senior Designer
    KCPQ, KMYQ & KRCW

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