After Effects wins!

[Andrew Kimery]

Best part of that was the talk about Character Animator, democratizing animation, and mentioning the streamer Scribbleh that streams using an avatar animated by Character Animator.

Scribbleh channel:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/389296655

[Eric Santiago]

I get nostalgic when I read about CoSa.

I go that far back 😉

[Andreas Kiel]

[Eric Santiago] “I get nostalgic when I read about CoSa.
I go that far back ;)”
I still have a installer on floppy disk with handwritten labels “for Andreas” 😉

Spherico
https://www.spherico.com/filmtools

\”He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby
become a monster. And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will
also gaze into thee.\” – Friedrich Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil

[Eric Santiago]

[Andreas Kiel] “I still have a installer on floppy disk with handwritten labels “for Andreas” ;-)”

Lucky!
I had a few bad floods here that destroyed software boxes 🙁

[Andreas Kiel]

When the CoSA people had their first betas Apple (or better Claris) had a similar app in beta state

Spherico
https://www.spherico.com/filmtools

\”He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby
become a monster. And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will
also gaze into thee.\” – Friedrich Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil

[Scott Thomas]

I had not heard of the Claris app.

When CoSA released After Effects, I was a kid still using Commodore Amigas at home making graphics for a TV station that had no graphics capabilities beyond a weather computer, a Quanta CG and a GVG Kaleidoscope. They sent me to Promax/BDA in New Orleans in `94 where I went to a session called “Video and the Macintosh”. Using a personal computer for video production was still pretty esoteric and looked down upon by the elites, but this session drew a crowd. The last of four speakers was the art director of WIVB in Buffalo, NY, Kurt Murphy. He came with an hour’s worth of material, but had to cram it into 15 minutes. It was at that point I understood where the market was going. (Commodore had already gone bankrupt. :))

We didn’t buy After Effects until a couple of years later. Meanwhile, I was still using the linear room, but now had Photoshop, Illustrator on a PowerMac and Lightwave on a Video Toaster/Amiga system (A separate story).

[Scott Thomas]

Here is the movie open by Randy Cates, referenced in the article:

Saturday Movie Special