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  • After Effects users, are you happy?

  • Jeremy Garchow

    August 30, 2016 at 5:42 pm

    I don’t know about you, but Ae feels pretty messy. I get a lot of weird crashing, a lot of indecipherable errors, a constant battle with the new caching system (although when it works, it is good), and a lot of freezing.

    Is anyone looking around to find After Effects replacements? This seems like a very daunting task. Motion could be argued as one, but the third party support isn’t as pervasive as After Effects. What else could replace or mostly replace After Effects?

  • Steve Connor

    August 30, 2016 at 5:45 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “What else could replace or mostly replace After Effects?”

    Not much really!

  • David Roth Weiss

    August 30, 2016 at 6:44 pm

    Fusion is free… And, its integration with Resolve is pretty awesome I hear.

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Colorist & Workflow Consultant
    David Weiss Productions
    Los Angeles

    David is a Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Apple Final Cut Pro forum.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    August 30, 2016 at 6:46 pm

    [David Roth Weiss] “Fusion is free… And, its integration with Resolve is pretty awesome I hear.

    But can it supplant After Effects?

  • Oliver Peters

    August 30, 2016 at 6:55 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “But can it supplant After Effects?”

    Fusion and Nuke and others are node-based compositors and as such can only do part of what AE does. Especially in the area of motion graphics. Plus there’s the whole track versus node issue. Some of this is probably a comfort zone. Obviously Motion gets closest of all the alternatives, but I have yet to encounter a Motion artist locally who is as good as the AE specialists I can choose from.

    Adobe has been on a path with AE of UI clean-up and general optimization. They are in the middle of that process. It will probably take another update or two before it truly settles down.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • David Roth Weiss

    August 30, 2016 at 7:01 pm

    [Oliver Peters] “Plus there’s the whole track versus node issue. Some of this is probably a comfort zone. “

    Oh come now Oliver, don’t tell me that suddenly people on this forum would have an issue with an app because it doesn’t have tracks, because it takes them out of their comfort zone. That would be way too ironic.

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Colorist & Workflow Consultant
    David Weiss Productions
    Los Angeles

    David is a Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Apple Final Cut Pro forum.

  • David Roth Weiss

    August 30, 2016 at 7:03 pm

    [Oliver Peters] “Plus there’s the whole track versus node issue. Some of this is probably a comfort zone. “

    Oh come now Oliver, don’t tell me that suddenly people on this forum would have an issue with an app because it doesn’t have tracks, because it takes them out of their comfort zone. That would be way too ironic.

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Colorist & Workflow Consultant
    David Weiss Productions
    Los Angeles

    David is a Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Apple Final Cut Pro forum.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    August 30, 2016 at 7:14 pm

    [Oliver Peters] “Fusion and Nuke and others are node-based compositors and as such can only do part of what AE does. Especially in the area of motion graphics. “

    Motion graphics is mostly what I am talking about. Compositing is another area, but I think Nuke and Fusion have some advantages there, although Ae has it’s place as well. I am wondering, specifically, about Ae’s versatile tool set. It is really really hard to replace. I think nodes vs layers can be learned, if the person wants to learn, and I wouldn’t get too hung up on all of that. I am am more concerned about actual replacements.

    I can’t get away from Ae simply because everyone I collaborate with on a Motion graphic level uses it. I have to supply Ae material all the time. Therefore, I need to use Ae a lot, and I know it’s in a “state of transition” but it is getting harder and harder to use without these weird slow downs in performance (in the name of speeding it up).

    For my own work, I’d love to explore other options. I’d look more at Motion if had more third party support (like Mocha 5’s new plugin for example).

    I was hoping that I was missing something.

  • Erik Lindahl

    August 30, 2016 at 7:22 pm

    The natural choice would be Motion, that said its sadly sort of dead in the water. It’s support – even from its developer Apple – is weak at best. In the past Motion has scaled increadibaly poorly. You get amazing realtime until you hit some wall where performance does.

    Fusion might be a decent bet. At least it’s free to try out. And available for OSX / Windows / Linux.

    Personally I’m happy with AE. I do however feel Adobe should and could do way more to improve things:

    1. Unify their apps more. Consistencies with rendering, filters, format support – you name it. Today this is a massive head ache. Want an EPS in Premiere? Go from Illustrator to After Effects to Premiere. And remember to do the scaling in the right app as well as the CMYK > RGB conversion.

    2. Make undynamic link dynamic. Copy & paste from any to any app. Today it sort-a-kind-a works here and there. But even simple things such as blurs don’t translate correctly from PP to AE.

    3. Project management. Today I setup my projects and edits in Resolve, Premiere and After Effects. It’s sort of a pain. Adobes apps should be able to sort this better.

  • Walter Soyka

    August 30, 2016 at 7:22 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “I was hoping that I was missing something.”

    What about Ae CC 2014 (13.2)? CC 2015 project files are still perfectly compatible with the previous release. Is there a new feature in CC 2015 that you have to have?

    Personally, it pains me to go back — there’s a lot to like in CC 2015 — but I have heard from some others that the issues folks are having with Ae on recent releases are more pronounced on Mac than they are on Windows. If you like how it was before better than how it is at the moment, that’s still an option.

    Walter Soyka
    Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live [link]
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
    @keenlive [twitter]   |   RenderBreak [blog]   |   Profile [LinkedIn]

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