After Effects to Premiere

[Tclark]

You cannot do this in your versions. You need the new Production Studio with Dynamic Link to accomplish this.

[Civilian]

You’d think Adobe would put the link in right from the start. Anyways thanks for the reply.

[Tim Kolb]

[civilian] ”
You’d think Adobe would put the link in right from the start.”

Huh? When your PPro 1.5 and earlier AE v6 were released, the feature didn’t exist.

This link took an amazing amount of work from both the Premiere Pro and After Effects teams. The Production Studio includes the extra “stuff” necessary to bridge the gap. Neither piece of software on its own handles the process.

The Production Studio costs less that After Effects alone did a couple of years ago, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to upgrade for this feature.

TimK,

Kolb Productions,
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[Civilian]

Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad they did it, and it sounds like a good deal. I’m just saying that I thought it would be something they would incorporate right from the start of after effects and premiere. I mean easy compatibility between those two programs just makes sense. I’m sure it’s not the easiest thing to make, I’m just annoyed that I can’t do it with my versions.

[Tim Kolb]

Keep in mind that all these types of features use computing resources as well. Software developers can only make what runs well on the computers that are current if they hope to stay in business. Notice the system requirements for the Production Studio are not modest. This is because when that feature is used and you are in Premiere Pro, After Effects is effectively open in the background running and updating too.

PPro 1.5 and AE 6 run on a minimum system of an 800 MHz P3, with 256 MB of RAM.

The Production Studio has a requirement for 1.4 GHz P4 with a Gig of RAM when running multiple applications with DV and a dual Xeon 2.8 GHz and 2 Gigs of RAM is necessary for running Dynamic Link in HD…

If this feature was included in PPro 1.5, the price of the minimum system to run it would have been much, much higher…

It’s all about what makes sense for the most users.

TimK,

Kolb Productions,
Creative Cow Host,
Author/Trainer
http://www.focalpress.com
http://www.classondemand.net

[Luis Ortega]

Is it true that you can’t get the benefits of dynamic link just using premiere 2 and AE 7 and you have to buy the production studio to get these to work together?
If so, that sucks. the dynamic link should be made available to anyone who uses pro 2 and AE7. Most of us already have these products and it’s not economical to buy a production studio just to get the programs to work together.
I was going to buy AE7 pro upgrade until the salesman said that the dynamic link to Pro 2 would not be included so I said the hell with it.

[Civilian]

I just tried the Premiere 2.0 demo and it said it didn’t include dynamic link. I’m not sure if this was because it was only a demo, or because it wasn’t the production studio, but I think it was the latter. Thats a good point about the computer resources though Tim, I didn’t know the dynamic link actually had both programs running at the same time. Well since I don’t have the production studio, what is the best way to render out a compostion in After Effects for use in Premiere? Is it best to render it out of AE uncompressed, then import it to Premiere? When I do so I have very huge file sizes, and when I render it out of Premiere again, they are still fairly large. I don’t know much about compression, so any advice the best way to bring it out of After Effects for use in Premiere would be appreciated. Thanks for the help.

[Tim Kolb]

That’s a tough one. Every situation is different.

Ideally, to save drive space, you’d want to render your AE stuff in the same compression/file type that would be native for your Premiere Project…that eliminates a lot of rendering later when, for instance you are editing DV and drop an uncompressed AE render on the timeline.

When you need to render out of AE and composite into an edit later…for instance maybe you’ve animated a client logo and you want to be able to use it superimposed over video in many different circumstances…you would most likely want to render out the comp with alpha channel transparency. This adds a wrinkle as not all codecs (such as DV) have the ability to include alpha channel transparency. In a case like that, you’d need to use uncompressed or QT Animation codec to output the AE project.

Like I said, every situation is different. Your particular circumstances may not fit in either of these scenarios…

TimK,

Kolb Productions,
Creative Cow Host,
Author/Trainer
http://www.focalpress.com
http://www.classondemand.net

[Civilian]

Thanks Tim, I have some idea of how to go about it now. My AE stuff is all cartoon rendered 3d animation from Maya (at 1024×768), would the quicktime Animation codec be a good fit for that as well? There is no native file type for Premiere as of yet, because I’ve got to composite it all in AE first. After I’ve rendered it out of AE, in Premiere I’d want to use the same codec to render it out again right? For instance if I used the Animation codec in After Effects, I’d use Animation codec again in Premiere, correct? Or will that end up with a loss of quality (by compressing it twice)?