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  • After effects settings for render

    Posted by Trevor Osborn on June 12, 2009 at 11:49 pm

    Hi,
    There must be a million posts going on about render settings but I think each is to their own. I have 60secs of HDV 1440 x 1080 footage and animation I am trying to export from after effects CS3. Using dynamic link premiere just crashes when trying to export, it wont render or preview either with AE open or not. After effects gets to about 280 frames before crashing when rendering. I have used every setting I can think of Animation, jpeg photo, even the secret purge option (which got me to about 300frames)

    The pc I am using is an intel 2.40GHz quad core with 4GB of ram running on windows XP 32bit machine.

    I guess what I am asking is for a standard setting to set up everything from page file usage, to after effects settings.

    Hopefully this can help everyone!

    Thanks,

    Trevor

    Trevor Osborn replied 16 years, 10 months ago 2 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Kevin Camp

    June 13, 2009 at 12:27 am

    what i’d try first is disabling multiprocessing in ae (preferences>multiprocessing, uncheck the option for render multiple frame simultaneously.

    you could also try splitting the render into segments, then reassemble the segments after they are rendered.

    if you don’t want to go that route, then i would convert all you hdv footage to something like dvcprohd, pro res 422 (apple), dnxhd (free from avid), or photo-jpeg. bring that converted footage in to ae and replace all your hdv with that footage — ae really doesn’t work well with hdv and it may be the problem.

    one other thing, though i doubt that it would cause a crash, if you only have internal har drives for your media, operating system, programs and such, disable ae’s disk cache (preferences>memory&cache).

    Kevin Camp
    Senior Designer
    KCPQ, KMYQ & KRCW

  • Trevor Osborn

    June 13, 2009 at 2:43 am

    Thanks for getting back so quick,

    I have been braking up all the segments but it will take me 100 years to complete the job.

    I have not tried converting the footage yet, but as the rest of my premiere project is in hdv 1440 x 1080 it could be an issue.

    Those settings didn’t help unfortunately, is there anything else like – prevent DLL or the open GL render settings. I think I have tried them all so it might be a case of converting the footage in the end…. unless a miracle happens!

    Also what setting with HDV would you recommend for producing DVD’s and which settings and format for television?
    I worked in Australia making TVC’s for year and we just used AVID DV25, shot everything on digi beta and it looked pretty good but no 1:1.

    Thanks,

    Trevor

  • Kevin Camp

    June 15, 2009 at 5:50 pm

    hi trevor,

    hopefully things are going better with you footage… other than the hdv, i can’t think of why ae and premiere would crash when rendering…

    if you were asking about disabling opengl in ae, you can in the preview preference. just uncheck the box for use opengl acceleration (many users work with opengl disabled in ae)

    as far as getting your hdv project from premiere to a dvd, you can try dynamic link to take the timeline into encore or even to adobe’s media encoder, to produce an sd mpeg-2 (you’ll want to make sure that it gets flagged as widescreen, you’ll need to check the docs for the specifics on that). that would probably be the easiest way. it would also eliminate the extra step of rendering the whole timeline as hd then converting the hd to sd mpeg-2, which would save time, disk space and some quality (unless you rendered lossless/uncompressed prior to mpeg-2).

    Kevin Camp
    Senior Designer
    KCPQ, KMYQ & KRCW

  • Trevor Osborn

    June 15, 2009 at 11:16 pm

    Thanks for that, unlucky for me it still wont export. I thought I had it when I precomposed every element, but when I used the same settings again to export the blue render bar runs to the end and nothing gets rendered or I get an error saying cant render a buffer image and crashes.

    Might have to try the re install…

  • Kevin Camp

    June 16, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    if you are getting image buffer errors, you can often tweak the memory settings to get around that. i’m not sure which version of ae you are running, but with pre-cs4 versions you’ll want to try decreasing the maximum ram cache. the default is 60%, you might try going to 30-40%. in cs4, you’ll move the ram cache slider towards longer previews.

    another option is evoking the secret pref… hold down ‘shift’ while selecting preferences>general, then from the pref window when you select the preference dropdown, ‘secret’ should be at the bottom. set the ‘purge’ value to a number of frames that is less than where the crash happens… ie, it crashes at frame 100, set it to 80-90…

    while we’re on the subject of caches, what are your current cache settings (both ram and disk cache)?

    Kevin Camp
    Senior Designer
    KCPQ, KMYQ & KRCW

  • Trevor Osborn

    June 22, 2009 at 12:20 am

    Awesome thanks for that, I didn’t quite understand where to purge. I ended up exporting 3 files for the 60second project and edited it back in Premiere, but will re try with a new purge setting and 40% Ram cache.

    I am about to upgrade from CS3 to CS4 as I now am using a Sony EX1. I hear CS3.2 should work fine too. Kind of not sure what is the most stable editing platform for HD if you don’t have external hardware. Might help my after effects problems too getting some though. At the moment CS3 isn’t liking my EX1 no matter what i do in the clip browser or the other codec’s. It murders my sweet HD footage in compression. Anyway that’s another forum i guess.

    Thanks again Kev!

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