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After Effects blocked from seeing the GPU
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Thank you for replying Thomas.
I have found out this card’s GPU will not connect to After Effects at all. (?)
It is unclear to me if this is a driver issue. One Adobe source says a driver will never be written for this card in order for it to be accessed by After Effects for ray tracing.For the record the machine is:
HP Performance Advisor Configuration ReportComputer Name: XXXXXXXX -Z600
Model: HP Z600 Workstation
Computer Type: Desktop
Manufactured by: Hewlett-Packard
Baseboard ID: 0B54h
Serial Number: 2ua0150mtp
BIOS version: 3.19 (Current Setting Group: After Effects CC)
Processor: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5506 @ 2.13GHz (2 processors)
Enabled Processor Count: 8
Total Memory: 16 GB
Local Storage: 3.78 TB (3 drives)
Graphics Card & Driver: Quadro K2200 — 368.39
Slots in use:
SLOT 1 (PCI Express Gen 2 x8): Etron USB 3.0 eXtensible Host Controller – 1.0 (Microsoft)
SLOT 2 (PCI Express Gen 2): Quadro K2200
SLOT 3 (PCI Express x8): LSI Adapter, SAS 3000 series, 4-port with 1064E
SLOT 6 (PCI): Texas Instruments 1394 OHCI Compliant Host Controller
Operating System: Windows 10 (64-bit)
Current Culture: en-US
Current Active Power Scheme: High performance (GUID {8c5e7fda-e8bf-4a96-9a85-a6e23a8c635c})
HP Performance Advisor: 1.8.9014.0 (Database Timestamp: 7/20/2016 1:36:58 PM)
Proxy server:
Installed Applications: Adobe After Effects CC
Adobe Photoshop Lightroom CC
Adobe SpeedGrade CCThe AVG issue was resolved. Exceptions were written but with no change.
The issue is a bought a card that After Effects can use EXCEPT it cannot do the very thing I bought it to do 3D RAY TRACING
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I saw that list before I bought. I cannot find a date on it. But I thought it was an old list and that the K2200 was was not on it because the list was obsolete. What was on my mind was the glowing advertising and the fact that it seemed like an update of my existing K2000.
Out of all of the cards on the list for the other graphics apps why would I suspect the k2200 would be the road apple not as capable as the others.
Where were the brightly colored disclaimers ” NOT for AE 3D RAY TRACING ! ” ?
With all it has going for it and the k2xxx designation etc. WHY would anyone assume it to be LESS capable?
It is linked with AE in much advertising. Why would anyone assume it unable to do Ray Tracing?It is also unclear ( presumably a state secret) if it “c o u l d ” work if it only had a driver written for it.
I like the idea of using one of the very newest low budget nVidia 3D cards. Is it the 780 that sells for almost the same as the K2200?
BUT how do I know it will be seen by AE ?If I buy the full C4D lite how will it see the k2200?Will C4D Lite use the K2200 for 3D Ray Tracing?
As far as plug ins packages go even if the basic one is low priced the publishers tend to dangle ever more plug ins to the plug in. A rabbit hole with diminishing returns?
That being said would Elements us the hundreds of cores in the K2200?
If AE does not see the cores and Elements is hosted within AE how will Elements see the cores?Ray traced render may be dead for Adobe but If I do work up to a full C4D package then what links THAT software to the GPU and WHAT lets me blend objects and footage THEN.
How does a small operator get anywhere when Corporations make arbitrary decisions we cannot keep up with?
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[Wallace Adrian D'Alessio] “As far as plug ins packages go even if the basic one is low priced the publishers tend to dangle ever more plug ins to the plug in. A rabbit hole with diminishing returns? That being said would Elements us the hundreds of cores in the K2200? If AE does not see the cores and Elements is hosted within AE how will Elements see the cores?”
I suppose the value judgment is up to you. I think Element is extremely capable and reasonably priced. Minor updates have been free; Element’s major upgrade cost some money but added a ton of new features. There are also 3D model packs available for additional cost, but I actually like that they break it out that way so you can only buy what you actually need.
Element3D uses the GPU in a completely different way than Ae does. Element is like a video game engine, using OpenGL to draw the scene with a set of graphics-only tools. The ray-tracing renderer uses CUDA, a technology for using the GPU for general-purpose calculations. They are not comparable, either in access methods or capability.
Also, as a sidebar, Ae plugins are special little programs that report to Ae and are capable of using hardware differently than the host does. Element3D uses OpenGL for rendering; Ae does not. GenArts Sapphire uses CUDA, independently of the ray-tracing renderer.
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Would this card do Ray tracing in AE?
Would AE be able to access it?
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I am beginning to think the Adobe list is a way to clear the warehouses of old cards as new ones come out.
Users never getting the latest and greatest at good prices while they are cutting edge.The list will always be obsolete.
Seemingly intentionally.
When the list is dated and updated in a timely way in keeping with new tech I will change my mind on the ” intentionally ” part.
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The GTX 1070 is not on the supported card list. It uses an even newer architecture called Pascal than your Maxwell-based K2200. I would assume it does not work with the ray-tracing renderer until proven otherwise.
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[Wallace Adrian D'Alessio] “The list will always be obsolete. Seemingly intentionally.”
The ray-tracing renderer is obsolete. That’s why I’m encouraging you to investigate other solutions.
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Checking online, it would seem that your K2200 is in the correct x16 slot, albeit the 2nd slot, the 1st slot being only a x8 slot not meant for a graphics card.
Sounds like Walter has provided you with the right answers re the K2200 not being on AE’s support list, though it does not really solve your predicament.
That said, I found this “after effects tutorial hack gpu raytracing for unsupported graphics cards” on youtube, albeit for CS6. Not sure if applicable to AE CC, but it seems simple enough to do, and if it does not work you can always re-edit to revert to the original .txt entries –
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[Thomas Leong] “That said, I found this “after effects tutorial hack gpu raytracing for unsupported graphics cards” on youtube, albeit for CS6. Not sure if applicable to AE CC, but it seems simple enough to do, and if it does not work you can always re-edit to revert to the original .txt entries -“
It’s not applicable to Ae CC.
Recent release of Ae have the option to attempt to use unsupported GPUs through the normal UI without having to change the text file.
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Thank you for looking into this for me more Thomas.
I tried the method in the video. several times.
Restarting , etc, AE CC 2015 still does not see my K2200.
Thanks again
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